Spirituality
08 Dec 05
08 Dec 05
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Originally posted by rwingettIf I join, could I be assured that I wouldn't be placed in charge of some oppressive, unproductive and stagnant communist republic?
Spots are filling up quickly. Only 13 to go. If you want to get in on this you'd better hightail it on to the General Forum and see my post of the same name there.
08 Dec 05
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesThe material preconditions necessary for communism did not exist during the Medieval era. Feudalism led into capitalism, which in turn made communism possible.
If I join, could I be assured that I wouldn't be placed in charge of some oppressive, unproductive and stagnant communist republic?
Communist dialectics aside, you can role play your king in any manner you see fit.
09 Dec 05
Originally posted by rwingettCapitalism made communism possible? How is that?
The material preconditions necessary for communism did not exist during the Medieval era. Feudalism led into capitalism, which in turn made communism possible.
Communist dialectics aside, you can role play your king in any manner you see fit.
09 Dec 05
Originally posted by AThousandYoungCapitalism built up the means of production which makes socialism possible. According to the socialist version of history, that is the historic role of capitalism. That is the main reason why the Russian Revolution failed. It was doomed to fail. Capitalism had not been allowed to fulfill its historic role in Russia, which meant Russia was incapable of supporting socialism. The Mensheviks wanted to postpone the revolution. The Bolsheviks were impatient and started the revolution without them.
Capitalism made communism possible? How is that?
The Mensheviks were right.
09 Dec 05
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Originally posted by rwingettThe Mensheviks were losers. What are you supposed to do: sit around under a brutal repressive government until it finally reaches sufficient development conditions to rebel? Marxists were and are a bunch of jerks; Bakunin was and still is right.
Capitalism built up the means of production which makes socialism possible. According to the socialist version of history, that is the historic role of capitalism. That is the main reason why the Russian Revolution failed. It was doomed to fail. Capitalism had not been allowed to fulfill its historic role in Russia, which meant Russia was incapable of suppo ...[text shortened]... olsheviks were impatient and started the revolution without them.
The Mensheviks were right.
09 Dec 05
Originally posted by rwingettmy question to you is when will "true" communism come into effect? not the fake russian kind. but the type that comes after the peasants in a capitalist society "rise up" altogether, abolish capitalism, and live together peacefully. when will that happen? 50 years? 100 years? 500??? also, do you honestly believe that if/when this happens, there will be "everlasting peace"? don't you think ambitious people will just look to be in positions of power again?
Capitalism built up the means of production which makes socialism possible. According to the socialist version of history, that is the historic role of capitalism. That is the main reason why the Russian Revolution failed. It was doomed to fail. Capitalism had not been allowed to fulfill its historic role in Russia, which meant Russia was incapable of suppo ...[text shortened]... olsheviks were impatient and started the revolution without them.
The Mensheviks were right.