Meta-narrative

@kellyjay said
You should meet Him, believing in Him is not the same as believing Him.

Psychologically speaking, you are all tangled up with ancient Hebrew mythology and its cult-of-personality spin-off.

@fmf said
We have both experienced Christian faith in our lives.

We both called ourselves Christian, one us renounced the faith when something common to man happened, making them renounce God and Christianity. Not enough truth to trust!

@fmf said
Psychologically speaking, you are all tangled up with ancient Hebrew mythology and its cult-of-personality spin-off.

You can justify yourself anyway you want for you it’s all speculation any justification will do.

@kellyjay said
We both called ourselves Christian, one us renounced the faith when something common to man happened, making them renounce God and Christianity. Not enough truth to trust!

Well, I am not a Christian anymore, if that's what you're getting at.

@kellyjay said
You can justify yourself anyway you want for you it’s all speculation any justification will do.

"Justify" myself? To whom? What are you on about now?

@fmf said
Well, I am not a Christian anymore, if that's what you're getting at.

I have given you my take on all that you have said.

-Removed-

What brand is that?

-Removed-

But do you ever share wine and break bread with one another (even metaphorically), as brothers in Christ?

@fmf said
What's interesting is that, if you apply to yourself the "logic" that you apply to me, you cannot claim you are a Christian. Not yet, anyway.

That's where I was driving to, but you have driven the nail on the head before I had time to reach for the hammer.

@indonesia-phil said
That's where I was driving to, but you have driven the nail on the head before I had time to reach for the hammer.

The same point throughout the whole conversation Christ in us, while he denies
that and denies God. The day of judgment will reveal it all correct, but in this life,
there is a seal God gives His own, one also denied by fmf.

@kellyjay said
The same point throughout the whole conversation Christ in us, while he denies
that and denies God. The day of judgment will reveal it all correct, but in this life,
there is a seal God gives His own, one also denied by fmf.

The notion that I will be "judged" by a particular God figure that appeals to your imagination and makes you feel better about life is a function of your cognition pure and simple.

@kellyjay said
I have given you my take on all that you have said.

I get that you think your beliefs have rendered you immortal and that mine have rendered me somehow deserving of posthumous, neverending torture. And also I get that you present this as an "objective" point of view and the only "narrative" that makes any "logical sense".

@fmf said
I get that you think your beliefs have rendered you immortal and that mine have rendered me somehow deserving of posthumous, neverending torture. And also I get that you present this as an "objective" point of view and the only "narrative" that makes any "logical sense".

I get you too have beliefs, you assume that life is not eternal, you assume that
no one will stand responsible for things done in this life. Assumptions that there
is no standard right and wrong for everyone equally without respect for the
person. You don't see how now can only be understood by how it all came to
be, without taking the whole into account. Anyone can make anything up they
want about any part of life while ignoring the parts that don't fit in the whole
picture.