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    11 Jul '06 02:41
    This book likes interesting. Anyone read it? Any devout Catholics read it? Opine...
  2. Donationrwingett
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    11 Jul '06 05:08
    Originally posted by cmsMaster
    This book likes interesting. Anyone read it? Any devout Catholics read it? Opine...
    The Bart Ehrman book? If that's the one you're talking about, it's an exceptional book. I recommend it highly. Actually, I recommend anything by Ehrman.
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    13 Jul '06 02:56
    Yes he is an excellent professor. I have his course entitled "The Historical Jesus" on video tape. If all Christians were like him I would have a lot more respect for Christians.
  4. Standard membertelerion
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    13 Jul '06 03:01
    Originally posted by bvb
    Yes he is an excellent professor. I have his course entitled "The Historical Jesus" on video tape. If all Christians were like him I would have a lot more respect for Christians.
    I saw him on the Colbert Report. Very interesting.

    He also called himself an agnostic.

    If more xians were agnostics, I'd have more respect for them too.
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    13 Jul '06 05:51
    Originally posted by telerion
    I saw him on the Colbert Report. Very interesting.

    He also called himself an agnostic.

    If more xians were agnostics, I'd have more respect for them too.
    For what: their double-mindedness?
  6. Donationrwingett
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    13 Jul '06 15:21
    Originally posted by telerion
    I saw him on the Colbert Report. Very interesting.

    He also called himself an agnostic.

    If more xians were agnostics, I'd have more respect for them too.
    He started out as a fundamentalist christian. But after studying the matter in an impartial manner he came to the conclusion that the case for god is a rather sketchy one.
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    13 Jul '06 16:36
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    For what: their double-mindedness?
    No for the honest skepticism of their own beliefs.

    Take for instance my position:

    I believe that their isn't a god out there and that gods are anthropomorphisms that arise from projecting ourselves onto the world around us. However, I do not claim to know that there is not even one god that exists anywhere. I could certainly be mistaken, and if I start encountering evidence that seems to point to the action of any god or gods, my beliefs will probably change accordingly.

    But no one get their hopes up; I take this same position about all sorts of other magic creatures, and I have yet to believe in a single one.
  8. Donationbvb
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    15 Jul '06 05:19
    Originally posted by telerion
    No for the honest skepticism of their own beliefs.

    Take for instance my position:

    I believe that their isn't a god out there and that gods are anthropomorphisms that arise from projecting ourselves onto the world around us. However, I do not claim to know that there is not even one god that exists anywhere. I could certainly be mistaken, and if I st ...[text shortened]... e position about all sorts of other magic creatures, and I have yet to believe in a single one.
    I agree. The concept of an agnostic Christian is not a contradiction. It is based in having a clear understanding of the relationship between faith and knowledge. Another good guy on this subject is James Hall at the University of Richmond. He calls himself an "agnostic Episcopalian. For myself, I simply prefer to leave it at "agnostic" then keep everybody guessing.🙂
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