Spirituality
11 Feb 18
“Morality is doing the right thing regardless of what you are told...
Religionism is doing what you are told regardless of what is right”
Let's discuss this; I’ll open with my usual example of eternally torturing people for thought crimes because Jesus allegedly said it’s right to do so... so it’s “perfect justice”.
But this OP places the topic a lot wider than that, doesn’t it?
Originally posted by @divegeesterThe strong practice morality.
[b]“Morality is doing the right thing regardless of what you are told...
Religionism is doing what you are told regardless of what is right”
Let's discuss this; I’ll open with my usual example of eternally torturing people for thought crimes because Jesus allegedly said it’s right to do so... so it’s “perfect justice”.
But this OP places the topic a lot wider than that, doesn’t it?[/b]
The weak are content with religionism
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Originally posted by @divegeesterGee, here’s a shocker - the self-professed Christian is talking about Jesus torturing people again.
[b]“Morality is doing the right thing regardless of what you are told...
Religionism is doing what you are told regardless of what is right”
Let's discuss this; I’ll open with my usual example of eternally torturing people for thought crimes because Jesus allegedly said it’s right to do so... so it’s “perfect justice”.
But this OP places the topic a lot wider than that, doesn’t it?[/b]
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Originally posted by @divegeesterYour initial post completely ignores the power and role of God’s Holy Spirit in indwelling a Christian.
[b]“Morality is doing the right thing regardless of what you are told...
Religionism is doing what you are told regardless of what is right”
Let's discuss this; I’ll open with my usual example of eternally torturing people for thought crimes because Jesus allegedly said it’s right to do so... so it’s “perfect justice”.
But this OP places the topic a lot wider than that, doesn’t it?[/b]
11 Feb 18
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Originally posted by @divegeesterYes.
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But this OP places the topic a lot wider than that, doesn’t it?
Is a thing moral because the gods say so, or do the gods say so because it is moral?
11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I don’t believe Jesus tortures people; sonship and others do.
Gee, here’s a shocker - the self-professed Christian is talking about Jesus torturing people again.
You seem to be determined to miss every point made by every poster in this forum.
11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @romans1009You had an opportunity, just then, to introduce that idea and you completely blew it.
Your initial post completely ignores the power and role of God’s Holy Spirit in indwelling a Christian.
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11 Feb 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterYou’re the one who keeps mentioning it. And as I said before, there is Biblical support for annihilationism. Also as I said before, a sinful human with a finite mind and limited understanding and perspective (that’d be you) is hardly in a position to properly question/judge a completely holy and omniscient God who has an eternal perspective.
I don’t believe Jesus tortures people; sonship and others do.
You seem to be determined to miss every point made by every poster in this forum.
Did you learn nothing from the book of Job? Or haven’t you read it?
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Originally posted by @divegeesterIt shouldn’t have been overlooked in the first place. And, to a Christian, the Holy Spirit indwelling a believer is not an idea, it’s reality.
You had an opportunity, just then, to introduce that idea and you completely blew it.
Originally posted by @romans1009Feel free to comment on the thread topic as soon as you have caught your breath.
It shouldn’t have been overlooked in the first place. And, to a Christian, the Holy Spirit indwelling a believer is not an idea, it’s reality.
Originally posted by @romans1009Do you have anything to say about the thread topic?
You’re the one who keeps mentioning it. And as I said before, there is Biblical support for annihilationism. Also as I said before, a sinful human with a finite mind and limited understanding and perspective (that’d be you) is hardly in a position to properly question/judge a completely holy and omniscient God who has an eternal perspective.
Did you learn nothing from the book of Job? Or haven’t you read it?
Originally posted by @divegeesterRight and wrong in religion is usually framed in terms of obeying and transgressing the supposedly revealed will of a supernatural being ~ take the Christian and Islamic notions of "sin" for example.
“Morality is doing the right thing regardless of what you are told...
Religionism is doing what you are told regardless of what is right”[/b]
Morality is a set of ideas and standards about right or wrong that governs human interaction that does not require belief in a supernatural being and is the result of some combination of nature and nurture that is unique to every individual ~ while often broadly consistent across groups.
However, morality in this sense may well overlap with notions of "sin" and may be heavily influenced by religionism through upbringing and cultural norms.
Laws can be based on morality or religionism or both or, come to think of it, neither.
Originally posted by @romans1009Church Christians are generally weak minded people because they listen to the pastor and practice religiosity amigo.
What makes a Christian strong, amigo? Do you know?
Some people have this gift from God [and they come in all types, religions races etc], that makes them strong willed and determined to do what is right even if it kills them.