Originally posted by FMF How can anyone here know how much information was withheld from the Royal Commission? And anyway it's beside the point. The point here is how much information was withheld from the authorities during the 60 years leading up to the Royal Commission being set up in order to investigate the scandal.
From what we know about "the authorities," what do you think they would have done about it if they had received reports? I do not think that child abuse has been a secret at any time in the past century or even beyond that. For example, James Joyce had trouble publishing his collection of short stories called Dubliners partly because it described exactly that problem and it was considered shameful to put it in a book. Between 1905, when Joyce first sent a manuscript to a publisher, and 1914, when the book was finally published, Joyce submitted the book 18 times to a total of 15 publishers. The book's publishing history is a harrowing tale of persistence in the face of frustration.
The authorities prior to recent decades were complicit in abuse, not protective of children but of adults.
Originally posted by finnegan The authorities prior to recent decades were complicit in abuse, not protective of children but of adults.
Be that as it may, but I doubt that this was the corporate reason for the cover up and for the intimidation of victims. If it was the real reason then perhaps institutions like the JWs and Catholic Church could now use it in their defence, although it would surely be increasingly weak as a defence for any institutional or systematic cover up of abuse as we moved through the 1990s, 2000s and 2010s..
Originally posted by robbie carrobie That is quite simply nonsense. Let us take the royal commission as an example. How much information was withheld from the royal commission? Infact of the 1000 or so recorded instances of alleged abuse the Royal commission heard testimony that over 400 were reported to secular authorities as Jehovahs witnesses were counselled to do. Furthermore the ...[text shortened]... vahs witnesses are not very good at covering their tracks. Either way your statement is a FAIL.
There are more and more incidents of sexual abuse within the JW organisation appearing in the media. Is it your intent to defend them all? Do you believe they are all fake? Do you believe you are being persecuted because you are the chosen ones of God? Or do you want to stop for a moment and have one of your famous "periods of reflection", and consider that there just might be some truth in all this?
Originally posted by divegeester There are more and more incidents of sexual abuse within the JW organisation appearing in the media. Is it your intent to defend them all? Do you believe they are all fake? Do you believe you are being persecuted because you are the chosen ones of God? Or do you want to stop for a moment and have one of your famous "periods of reflection", and consider that there just might be some truth in all this?
No reply from Robbie.
Robbie what do you think of how the Roman Carholic leadership are trying to hold local leaders accountable for "how" they handle child sex abuse allegations?
Do you think your religious organisation has done enough to a) call out cases of alleged abuse? b) instigate new rules and processes for the reporting of allegations?
Bishops face sack for mishandling abuse under papal plans: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36451954
Originally posted by divegeester There seems to be more and more of this covering up of child abuse by the WatchTower leadership - and on a global basis.
This one from England at the end of 2015 where the JW parents failed to escalate the incident to the authorities.
[i]"Prosecutor Mr Taplow added: 'Sadly her parents chose to conceal the sexual nature of the incident and told he ...[text shortened]... sey-abuse
More sources here: https://www.revealnews.org/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/[/b]
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Is "child abuse" also widespread within the UK?
If you know little or nothing about the topic then you should look into it. There are all manner of organizations working on the issue and they have data and perspectives to share.
More cases of JW child abuse
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