Originally posted by sonshipOh, shoot. You put in 'if I do reply'. Takes all the fun out of it. 😞
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Originally posted by sonshipAssuming, hypothetically for the purposes of discussion, that the observable universe must have
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been created by an intelligent being or beings... (and let's be clear, there is no reason to think this).
Why should anyone, given the available evidence, rationally think that that being was the god of
the bible?
Originally posted by sonshipwhy do you think atheists demonstrate a kind of ,'claim to reason', when they are on the whole, so thoroughly unreasonable?
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Originally posted by sonship
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The following is an interesting question that Pawnokeyhole asked in this forum a long time ago. At the time, you really made a pig's ear of replying to it (under the handle 'jaywill' ). I'm interested to see how you respond now as compared to then:
Pawnokeyhole's question: "If Jesus's body were physically duplicated in every particular, would the mind, and possibly spirit, attached to the body of the duplicate Jesus be divine also?"
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Originally posted by googlefudgeBecause your premise that "let's be clear, there is no reason to think this" is not a given.
Assuming, hypothetically for the purposes of discussion, that the observable universe must have
been created by an intelligent being or beings... (and let's be clear, there is no reason to think this).
Why should anyone, given the available evidence, rationally think that that being was the god of
the bible?
Originally posted by LemonJelloDon't know. Doubt it.You may ask me any question or make any remark and I promise that if I do reply, I'll give you my shortest reply.
The following is an interesting question that Pawnokeyhole asked in this forum a long time ago. At the time, you really made a pig's ear of replying to it (under the handle 'jaywill' ). I'm interested to see how you respond ...[text shortened]... he body of the duplicate Jesus be divine also?"[/i]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI don't accept any of the premises of your question.
why do you think atheists demonstrate a kind of ,'claim to reason', when they are on the whole, so thoroughly unreasonable?
I don't think (or claim) that atheists are particularly more or less reasoned than anyone else.
I generally think that on the whole, atheists should be better skeptics and better reasoned than they
actually are.
I do say that atheism is the only rational position with regards to the existence of gods.
But there are plenty of people who don't believe in gods for irrational reasons, and just as theists
can be rational about things other than their religion, atheists can be irrational about things other
than the existence of gods.
If rationality were a staircase then "not believing in gods" is somewhere around step one...
There is an entire staircase to climb after that, and too many people take that first step and then stop.
Also, refusing to agree with you is not being unreasonable when it is you who is making the unreasonable
claims/arguments.
Originally posted by sonshipI don't think you understood my hypothetical.
Because your premise that [b]"let's be clear, there is no reason to think this" is not a given.[/b]
I was saying that for hypothetical purposes I take it as given that the universe WAS created
by some intelligent being or beings.
And then asking "Why should anyone, given the available evidence, rationally think that that
being was the god of the bible?"
My saying "let's be clear, there is no reason to think this" was not a premise of the question.