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    09 Feb '08 16:39
    I'm a lousy chess player.
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    09 Feb '08 16:42
    What's so tragic about that? I am a lousy dancer.
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    09 Feb '08 18:06
    Originally posted by jaywill
    I'm a lousy chess player.
    I could have told you that! 😉
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    09 Feb '08 19:241 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    I could have told you that! 😉
    The stark, bleak reality has come crashing down on me as I cannot seem to rise above a 1100 score hardly anymore.

    I just don't get the opening games. Alas, such promise dashed to pieces. Such dreams of greatness broken on the rocks of realism.

    Well, the few games that I do win are fun.
  5. Melbourne, Australia
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    09 Feb '08 21:21
    Originally posted by jaywill
    I'm a lousy chess player.
    What's this got to do with spirituality?
  6. Donationkirksey957
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    09 Feb '08 21:31
    Originally posted by Mephisto2
    What's so tragic about that? I am a lousy dancer.
    If you were black, that would be tragic. 🙂
  7. Donationkirksey957
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    09 Feb '08 21:32
    Originally posted by amannion
    What's this got to do with spirituality?
    It's a metaphor for his faith life.
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    09 Feb '08 22:10
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    It's a metaphor for his faith life.
    You got that right.

    Jesus is systematically conquering every square in my life.

    Checkmate is eternal life.
  9. The sky
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    09 Feb '08 22:34
    Originally posted by jaywill
    You got that right.

    Jesus is systematically conquering every square in my life.

    Checkmate is eternal life.
    No wonder you are a lousy chessplayer if your goal is to be checkmated.
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    10 Feb '08 02:37
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    No wonder you are a lousy chessplayer if your goal is to be checkmated.
    That's not my goal genius. The analogy goes so far and no further.
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    10 Feb '08 03:01
    Originally posted by jaywill
    You got that right.

    Jesus is systematically conquering every square in my life.

    Checkmate is eternal life.
    Great post!
  12. Hmmm . . .
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    10 Feb '08 03:21
    For some reason, this all reminds me of two things—

    “Israel” literally means “one who wrestles with God”, not one who submits.

    The story of Santa Theresa de Avila standing knee-deep in muddy water, trying to get her cart unstuck, and shaking her fist at God, shouting: “If this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few of them!”

    __________________________________


    I quit playing rated games on here, not because I was losing a lot or that my rating was going down, but because I discovered that my own ego-weakness was tuned into the rating. (Not only a weakness, but an irrational one to boot, I admit.) I decided to play the game just for the game, and see if I could do that with the same focus and not lackadaisically. I could. (Though I am playing very little right now, for other reasons.)

    So—

    What happens if one takes concepts like “rating”, and even “winning/losing”, out of the spiritual/religious game altogether? What if one chooses to play it with just as much focus and verve, no matter the outcome? Is there any better way to play it?

    Perhaps that’s very Zen—or very Zorba-esque—or a bit of both. Miguel de Unamuno, in his The Tragic Sense of Life wrestled with the question (as both a Christian and an existentialist) with more square-on honesty than most.

    Jaywill, when all the dust settles from the theological argument, is not so far from Unamuno. It is in that sense (in part), even though we tend to disagree about almost everything else on here, that I once called him a “rare bird.” I meant it as a compliment.

    Kirk, who understood the metaphor here, is another rare bird—and I mean that as a compliment.

    I have had some ugly relationships with a few people on here (some of it likely my fault, some of it theirs)—jaywill has not been one of them. And, as you can see, his chess metaphor and his use of the word “tragic” has given me, at least, some stuff to think about...
  13. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    10 Feb '08 03:27
    Originally posted by jaywill
    You got that right.

    Jesus is systematically conquering every square in my life.

    Checkmate is eternal life.
    The end of this game looks like a crucifixion, all right!

    Game 4572626
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    10 Feb '08 03:29
    Originally posted by vistesd
    For some reason, this all reminds me of two things—

    “Israel” literally means “one who wrestles with God”, not one who submits.

    The story of Santa Theresa de Avila standing knee-deep in muddy water, trying to get her cart unstuck, and shaking her fist at God, shouting: “If this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few of them!”

    _____ ...[text shortened]... s metaphor and his use of the word “tragic” has given me, at least, some stuff to think about...
    Thanks vistesd.
  15. The sky
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    10 Feb '08 03:38
    Originally posted by jaywill
    That's not my goal genius. The analogy goes so far and no further.
    It was a joke, genius.
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