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    15 Apr '07 17:45
    So we have asked the question about Christians, how about atheists? It seems pretty clear cut to me, however. An atheist simply demands that there be no God. Atheists seem much easier in labeling than the theists. Does anyone agree/disagree?
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    No true atheist ever would ... deny knowing everything.

    A weak atheist would, but not a true atheist.
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    15 Apr '07 17:49
    Originally posted by whodey
    So we have asked the question about Christians, how about atheists? It seems pretty clear cut to me, however. An atheist simply demands that there be no God. Atheists seem much easier in labeling than the theists. Does anyone agree/disagree?
    Demands that there be no god? I disagree. No surprise there.

    Observes that it is unlikely that there is a god, would be more like it.
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    15 Apr '07 17:51
    Originally posted by jammer
    No true atheist ever would ... deny knowing everything.

    A weak atheist would, but not a true atheist.
    A weak atheist is a true atheist. It is the christians themselves who have a vested interest in propagating the stereotype of the hard atheist.
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    15 Apr '07 18:01
    Originally posted by whodey
    So we have asked the question about Christians, how about atheists? It seems pretty clear cut to me, however. An atheist simply demands that there be no God. Atheists seem much easier in labeling than the theists. Does anyone agree/disagree?
    No true atheist would ever pray.

    No true atheist would use Jesus's or God's name in vain.
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    15 Apr '07 18:12
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    No true atheist would ever pray.

    No true atheist would use Jesus's or God's name in vain.
    No. 1 is true enough.

    No. 2 they sometimes do out of habit.
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    15 Apr '07 18:33
    Originally posted by rwingett
    A weak atheist is a true atheist. It is the christians themselves who have a vested interest in propagating the stereotype of the hard atheist.
    Actually we have one here on site .. bbarr or something like that is his tag. He a Philosophy guru and says he's a strong atheist. I can't debate him 'cause uses words i've never heard and don't understand AFTER reading the definition in my dictionary.

    I've always thought that the strong athesits doctrine was that there is no God or gods. Weak atheistism is the disbelief or denial of the exisistence of God or gods.
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    15 Apr '07 18:34
    Originally posted by whodey
    So we have asked the question about Christians, how about atheists? It seems pretty clear cut to me, however. An atheist simply demands that there be no God. Atheists seem much easier in labeling than the theists. Does anyone agree/disagree?
    No true atheist would ever enter a foxhole.
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    15 Apr '07 18:36
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    No true atheist would ever enter a foxhole.
    Not true .. some will convert quite quickly though when the fit hits the shan
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    15 Apr '07 20:08
    Originally posted by jammer
    Actually we have one here on site .. bbarr or something like that is his tag. He a Philosophy guru and says he's a strong atheist. I can't debate him 'cause uses words i've never heard and don't understand AFTER reading the definition in my dictionary.

    I've always thought that the strong athesits doctrine was that there is no God or gods. Weak atheistism is the disbelief or denial of the exisistence of God or gods.
    I'm not saying there are no strong atheists, but that a vast majority of knowledgeable atheists are weak atheists. Theists, however, have a vested interest in incorrectly portraying strong atheism as being the proper definition of atheism, or in depicting most atheists as being strong atheists. Neither is the case.
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    15 Apr '07 20:15
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    No true atheist would ever enter a foxhole.
    Not true. American Atheist regularly runs a feature in their publication called "Foxhole Atheist," which profiles an atheist in the military service. Pat Tillman, the ex-NFL player who was killed in Afghanistan, was an atheist.
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    15 Apr '07 21:23
    No true atheist would ever bow down and be forced to accept JC as his or her personal savior, no true atheist would bow down and be forced to accept Allah as his or her god. I personally would rather die then be forced to such a vile formula.
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    15 Apr '07 21:26
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Observes that it is unlikely that there is a god, would be more like it.
    If that were the definition accepted of all atheists I might reconsider. That's a very interesting perspective, one not commonly heard.
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    15 Apr '07 21:30
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    If that were the definition accepted of all atheists I might reconsider. That's a very interesting perspective, one not commonly heard.
    Not commonly heard? It seems pretty common to me.
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    15 Apr '07 22:03
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    Not commonly heard? It seems pretty common to me.
    Well, all I had ever heard was that athiests were absolute, concrete, no-second-thoughts about "there is no God." I've never heard "most likely not a God" before.
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