Originally posted by Suzianne I would say that Christians who think it is ridiculous to believe in the Bible as the Word of God aren't Christians at all, fundamentalist or not.
It's easier to maintain this opinion when you are fortified by ignorance.
Originally posted by Suzianne I would say that Christians who think it is ridiculous to believe in the Bible as the Word of God aren't Christians at all, fundamentalist or not.
Yes.... But you're a fundamentalist so you would think that.
Originally posted by Suzianne I would say that Christians who think it is ridiculous to believe in the Bible as the Word of God aren't Christians at all, fundamentalist or not.
What about christians who 'interpret' the bible to support their non-christian views?
Originally posted by Suzianne Not defined in that fashion, no.
Would you find it ridiculous to say that there are parts of the Bible that take precedence over other parts of the Bible. For example, does the Sermon on the Mount offer more of the essence of the faith than the Book of Ezra?
Originally posted by kirksey957 Would you find it ridiculous to say that there are parts of the Bible that take precedence over other parts of the Bible. For example, does the Sermon on the Mount offer more of the essence of the faith than the Book of Ezra?
Ezra is a very important historical book that gives us information about the time of the return of the captives of Israel to rebuild Jerusalem so we are able to calculate the prophecy of Daniel about the time of the coming of the Christ and is just as important to me, if not more so, as is the Sermon on the Mount. It may seem unimportant to others faith, like all the begats in Genesis, but I think most parts of the Holy Bible are important for the faith of someone.
I think that the conundrum here is that if the Bible is ignored, then God is whatever you percieve him to be or want him to be. It would be no different than being an athiest at that point.
I find that truth is usually a good kick in the arse. God knows we all need it form time to time and every time I read the Bible my arse tends to hurt. 😛:'(
Originally posted by kirksey957 Would you find it ridiculous to say that there are parts of the Bible that take precedence over other parts of the Bible. For example, does the Sermon on the Mount offer more of the essence of the faith than the Book of Ezra?
How do you weigh which one is "true" and which one is "false"?
Originally posted by whodey I think that the conundrum here is that if the Bible is ignored, then God is whatever you percieve him to be or want him to be. It would be no different than being an athiest at that point.
I find that truth is usually a good kick in the arse. God knows we all need it form time to time and every time I read the Bible my arse tends to hurt. 😛:'(
No, I think the conundrum is that there are different ways to take the Bible very seriously. Texts don't interpret themselves; it is the tradition of a community of interpreters, or through reason, experience, and ultimately the choice of a reader that ultimately interacts with the text to produce an interpretation. And where there is room for different interpretive frameworks, there is room for disagreement (at least around the margins) of what God is, what He wants, etc.
Originally posted by Suzianne I would say that Christians who think it is ridiculous to believe in the Bible as the Word of God aren't Christians at all, fundamentalist or not.
And why do you think that? How do you define 'Christian' in order to make that so?
Suppose somebody believes Jesus was the son of God, and they try to follow Jesus' teachings, but do not believe the Bible is the Word of God. Why are they not Christians in your view?
Originally posted by Bosse de Nage The type who don't take the Word at its word. Who might find the idea of doing so ridiculous. Are there any on this board?
I believe Zahlanzi is such a Christian...I find his posts quite refreshing to be honest. As for others, none spring to mind right now (unfortunately).
Originally posted by Agerg I believe Zahlanzi is such a Christian...I find his posts quite refreshing to be honest. As for others, none spring to mind right now (unfortunately).