1. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    07 Nov '12 18:23
    The type who don't take the Word at its word. Who might find the idea of doing so ridiculous. Are there any on this board?
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    07 Nov '12 18:31
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    The type who don't take the Word at its word. Who might find the idea of doing so ridiculous. Are there any on this board?
    Not defined in that fashion, no.
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    08 Nov '12 00:241 edit
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    The type who don't take the Word at its word. Who might find the idea of doing so ridiculous. Are there any on this board?
    Accepting the fundamentals of the faith does not make one a "fundamentalist" within the meaning you present here. Extreme fundamentalism is possibly a clearer definition. I see a few in here and know a few in real life. The ones I know in real life are good people trapped in a paradigm of ever decreasing [thought] circles which can lead to them exhibiting a somewhat misanthropic and even aggressive demeanor. If I ever come across this way, it's because I'm a being miserable git, not because I'm an extreme fundamentalist (which I’m not).
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    08 Nov '12 07:32
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Accepting the fundamentals of the faith does not make one a "fundamentalist" within the meaning you present here. Extreme fundamentalism is possibly a clearer definition. I see a few in here and know a few in real life. The ones I know in real life are good people trapped in a paradigm of ever decreasing [thought] circles which can lead to them exhibiti ...[text shortened]... cause I'm a being miserable git, not because I'm an extreme fundamentalist (which I’m not).
    Here's the thing: the possibly total untrustworthiness of the Bible was not considered incompatible with the fundamentals of the faith until advent the Gutenberg era. With print came a shift from negative to positive theology that has had the undesirable result of fostering wide-spread idiocy among semi-literate believers.
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    08 Nov '12 08:12
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    The type who don't take the Word at its word. Who might find the idea of doing so ridiculous. Are there any on this board?
    Is Kirk still around?
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    08 Nov '12 11:10
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    The type who don't take the Word at its word. Who might find the idea of doing so ridiculous. Are there any on this board?
    Fundamentalism may have different meanings for different people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_fundamentalism
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    08 Nov '12 11:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Fundamentalism may have different meanings for different people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_fundamentalism
    He means Christians that aren't like you.
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    08 Nov '12 11:33
    Originally posted by bbarr
    He means Christians that aren't like you.
    Suzianne doesn't think she is like his definition. However, she probably does not feel she is a Christian like me either.
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    08 Nov '12 11:44
    Originally posted by bbarr
    Is Kirk still around?
    I don't think he posts here anymore.
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    08 Nov '12 21:13
    I would say that Christians who think it is ridiculous to believe in the Bible as the Word of God aren't Christians at all, fundamentalist or not.
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    08 Nov '12 21:19
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Here's the thing: the possibly total untrustworthiness of the Bible was not considered incompatible with the fundamentals of the faith until advent the Gutenberg era. With print came a shift from negative to positive theology that has had the undesirable result of fostering wide-spread idiocy among semi-literate believers.
    You're starting your argument with a false statement, thus rendering it all false.

    Just saying "total untrustworthiness of the Bible" makes me stop listening. Even with the pansy modifier "possibly".

    Add in "idiocy" and "semi-literate" and your ignorance is complete.
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    08 Nov '12 21:19
    Originally posted by rwingett
    I don't think he posts here anymore.
    *grumble* ...good 'ol days... *grumble*.
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    08 Nov '12 21:21
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    The type who don't take the Word at its word. Who might find the idea of doing so ridiculous. Are there any on this board?
    Seems to be a catch 22 around here..
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    08 Nov '12 21:23
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    You're starting your argument with a false statement, thus rendering it all false.

    Just saying "total untrustworthiness of the Bible" makes me stop listening. Even with the pansy modifier "possibly".

    Add in "idiocy" and "semi-literate" and your ignorance is complete.
    1) Christians are dumb.
    2) Jesus loves the dumb.

    Therefore...

    3) Jesus loves Christians.

    Is everything in the above argument false, because it starts with a false premise? Right. So that's a brief lesson in logic. You're welcome.
  15. Standard memberBosse de Nage
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    08 Nov '12 21:39
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    You're starting your argument with a false statement, thus rendering it all false.

    Just saying "total untrustworthiness of the Bible" makes me stop listening. Even with the pansy modifier "possibly".

    Add in "idiocy" and "semi-literate" and your ignorance is complete.
    My post is a condensed summary of historical opinions held by various Christian thinkers and recorded in Karen Armstrong's book The Case For God.

    There was even a spiritual exercise that consisted in bringing to mind all the patent flaws and absurdities that the Bible contains, the better to enter the 'cloud of unknowing'.

    Idolatry of the Bible is one of the more pitiful dispositions of semi-literate idiots.

    Anyhow: a thought experiment: imagine all the Bibles in the world burnt up in a flash, every one of them, digital versions, paper versions, clay versions, the lot. Would your faith go up in smoke along with it? Or would you discover that you didn't need the Bible all along?
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