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    why is it that some christians seem to want the end of the world to happen in their lifetime? my mom and other christian fanatics in my family think that we are in the "end times" and that the "end" is near. sometimes they even wonder who the antichrist should be. i try to tell them that our time is not special and that most generations before ours thought they were special too. but they continue to deny it as if they just want something exciting in their lives, even if it is bad.
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    09 Mar '08 21:58
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    why is it that some christians seem to want the end of the world to happen in their lifetime? my mom and other christian fanatics in my family think that we are in the "end times" and that the "end" is near. sometimes they even wonder who the antichrist should be. i try to tell them that our time is not special and that most generations before ours tho ...[text shortened]... ntinue to deny it as if they just want something exciting in their lives, even if it is bad.
    I have trouble believing that you are actually a Christian. The end times signal the approach of Christ's return and for the new 1000 year period of peace to begin. You cant understand why your mom is happy? Its the fact that Christ return brings PEACE. The reason why this generation thinks its special is that we live in the period when the Jews reoccupied Palestine.
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    10 Mar '08 00:34
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    why is it that some christians seem to want the end of the world to happen in their lifetime? my mom and other christian fanatics in my family think that we are in the "end times" and that the "end" is near. sometimes they even wonder who the antichrist should be. i try to tell them that our time is not special and that most generations before ours tho ...[text shortened]... ntinue to deny it as if they just want something exciting in their lives, even if it is bad.
    What? You don't understand this?

    What parted lovers never yearn to be together again?

    What traveler doesn't long to come to his homeland?


    Jesus is called "the desire of the nations" in the book of Haggai. He is the one all the nations want and need to bring justice and peace to the globe.
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    10 Mar '08 00:36
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    I have trouble believing that you are actually a Christian. The end times signal the approach of Christ's return and for the new 1000 year period of peace to begin. You cant understand why your mom is happy? Its the fact that Christ return brings PEACE. The reason why this generation thinks its special is that we live in the period when the Jews reoccupied Palestine.
    im NOT a christian
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    10 Mar '08 01:21
    Originally posted by jaywill
    What? You don't understand this?

    What parted lovers never yearn to be together again?

    What traveler doesn't long to come to his homeland?


    Jesus is called [b]"the desire of the nations"
    in the book of Haggai. He is the one all the nations want and need to bring justice and peace to the globe.[/b]
    my family believes in the whole rapture n the mark of the beast stuff. i dont see whats so good about that
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    10 Mar '08 05:27
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    why is it that some christians seem to want the end of the world to happen in their lifetime? my mom and other christian fanatics in my family think that we are in the "end times" and that the "end" is near. sometimes they even wonder who the antichrist should be. i try to tell them that our time is not special and that most generations before ours tho ...[text shortened]... ntinue to deny it as if they just want something exciting in their lives, even if it is bad.
    You said it. It's excitement. They want dramatic proof that they're right and the people they hate are wrong and there will be rewards and punishments distributed accordingly.
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    10 Mar '08 05:29
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    I have trouble believing that you are actually a Christian. The end times signal the approach of Christ's return and for the new 1000 year period of peace to begin. You cant understand why your mom is happy? Its the fact that Christ return brings PEACE. The reason why this generation thinks its special is that we live in the period when the Jews reoccupied Palestine.
    Matthew 10:34 - Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
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    10 Mar '08 07:44
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    why is it that some christians seem to want the end of the world to happen in their lifetime? my mom and other christian fanatics in my family think that we are in the "end times" and that the "end" is near. sometimes they even wonder who the antichrist should be. i try to tell them that our time is not special and that most generations before ours tho ...[text shortened]... ntinue to deny it as if they just want something exciting in their lives, even if it is bad.
    My own experience at university was that a lot of young people thought it was exciting, and thought they had discovered some new important fact about the world. It is also very comforting for someone who is afraid of his future life (especially failing the next exam) to think that he does not have to worry to much about all that since the world is about to end.
    I am not a Christian, and was not then, but I did experience something similar during the first Gulf war. We all thought it very exiting, to listen to the rumours that WWIII was about to start - and of course we hoped it would get us out of the next exam. As we get older we start to realize that however exciting war may seem, it is a very very bad thing and nobody should look forward to it.

    I think a lot of the people I knew who believed that the end times were nigh, have since matured and begun to realize that it is not the case.

    It is not a new phenomenon. I remember my dad talking about how John the Baptist, and most of the early Christians, clearly thought that the end was near, and how the trend has continued ever since.
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    10 Mar '08 07:46
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    I have trouble believing that you are actually a Christian. The end times signal the approach of Christ's return and for the new 1000 year period of peace to begin. You cant understand why your mom is happy? Its the fact that Christ return brings PEACE. The reason why this generation thinks its special is that we live in the period when the Jews reoccupied Palestine.
    Its always funny to see how Christians are always so sure of themselves, and talk as if all Christians agree with each other, yet what they actually say contradicts other Christians and often even themselves.
    You are saying they can look forward to 1000 years of peace, jaywill says they can look forward to a quick meeting with Christ. - Complete opposites.
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    10 Mar '08 11:00
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Its always funny to see how Christians are always so sure of themselves, and talk as if all Christians agree with each other, yet what they actually say contradicts other Christians and often even themselves.
    You are saying they can look forward to 1000 years of peace, jaywill says they can look forward to a quick meeting with Christ. - Complete opposites.
    Jaywill said that? In this thread?
    In any case, how are those 2 statements opposites?
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    10 Mar '08 11:00
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    [b]Matthew 10:34 - Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.[/b]
    The first coming of Christ did not bring peace. We are speaking of His second coming.
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    10 Mar '08 11:16
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    Jaywill said that? In this thread?
    In any case, how are those 2 statements opposites?
    Maybe I misunderstood his post.
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    Originally posted by Rajk999
    The first coming of Christ did not bring peace. We are speaking of His second coming.
    Did he bring a sword?

    In Revelation 6, it is written that Jesus ("the lamb" ) will free the Horsemen and send them forth to conquer, kill, and remove peace from the world.
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    13 Mar '08 22:46
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    I have trouble believing that you are actually a Christian. The end times signal the approach of Christ's return and for the new 1000 year period of peace to begin. You cant understand why your mom is happy? Its the fact that Christ return brings PEACE. The reason why this generation thinks its special is that we live in the period when the Jews reoccupied Palestine.
    If what happened in Palestine is supposed to usher in peace then I want no part of it thanks very much.
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    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Did he bring a sword?

    In Revelation 6, it is written that Jesus ("the lamb" ) will free the Horsemen and send them forth to conquer, kill, and remove peace from the world.
    Continue reading ..... Rev 20:

    1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
    2 And he laid hold on the dragon, the old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
    3 and cast him into the abyss, and shut [it], and sealed [it] over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years should be finished: after this he must be loosed for a little time.
    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and such as worshipped not the beast, neither his image, and received not the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    5 The rest of the dead lived not until the thousand years should be finished. This is the first resurrection.
    6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
    7 And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
    8 and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
    9 And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them.
    10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
    11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat upon it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
    12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne; and books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of the things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    13 And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    14 And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, [even] the lake of fire.
    15 And if any was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire.
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