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Origin of sin

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The Genesis account of Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit is what many believe is the commencement of the need for a "Savior". When discussing Jesus and His sacrifice, all points go back to the "origin of sin".

** God never gave the direct order to Eve regarding the forbidden fruit, He told Adam only.

** If Adam and Eve were created as stated, then they only knew perfection and goodness. They could not have known, or understood, the severity of any consequences of eating the fruit.

** Adam and Eve would not have been prepared to handle "deception" from the serpent.

If one questions the origin of sin, or dismisses it as a metaphor, then the necessity for a Savior could also be questioned.


@chaney3 said
The Genesis account of Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit is what many believe is the commencement of the need for a "Savior". When discussing Jesus and His sacrifice, all points go back to the "origin of sin".

** God never gave the direct order to Eve regarding the forbidden fruit, He told Adam only.

** If Adam and Eve were created as stated, then they only knew ...[text shortened]... gin of sin, or dismisses it as a metaphor, then the necessity for a Savior could also be questioned.
Please define "sin" in a way that is comprehensible to a 21st-century human of average intelligence.

Thank you.


@chaney3 said
The Genesis account of Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit is what many believe is the commencement of the need for a "Savior". When discussing Jesus and His sacrifice, all points go back to the "origin of sin".

** God never gave the direct order to Eve regarding the forbidden fruit, He told Adam only.

** If Adam and Eve were created as stated, then they only knew ...[text shortened]... gin of sin, or dismisses it as a metaphor, then the necessity for a Savior could also be questioned.
"** God never gave the direct order to Eve regarding the forbidden fruit, He told Adam only."

That is why Original Sin follows from Adam's act, not Eve's.

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@chaney3 said
The Genesis account of Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit is what many believe is the commencement of the need for a "Savior". When discussing Jesus and His sacrifice, all points go back to the "origin of sin".

** God never gave the direct order to Eve regarding the forbidden fruit, He told Adam only.

** If Adam and Eve were created as stated, then they only knew ...[text shortened]... gin of sin, or dismisses it as a metaphor, then the necessity for a Savior could also be questioned.
One does not need to "question the origin of sin" to understand that sin exists in the world, or that man requires a savior from the sin that pervades society.


Or one could think, "Well, the Torah and the Bible are just some things a bunch of Jewish guys wrote thousands of years ago, and they are not the boss of me."


@suzianne said
"** God never gave the direct order to Eve regarding the forbidden fruit, He told Adam only."

That is why Original Sin follows from Adam's act, not Eve's.
Adam was likely not well equipped to understand the consequences of eating the fruit. When God said "you will die", Adam didn't have any reference point to know what that meant.

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@caesar-salad said
Please define "sin" in a way that is comprehensible to a 21st-century human of average intelligence.

Thank you.
Disobeying God.


@chaney3 said
Disobeying God.
Which God -- which is to ask, which human conception of God?

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"Afterwards" is key.
It would seem their innocence before eating the fruit left them ill equipped to truly understand the warning.

Yes, they disobeyed, but in that naive state, how could they deal with the deceit of the serpent? They would not have had any reason to be cynical at that time, since all was seemingly perfect.


God did it. End of story.


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