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Originally posted by checkbaiterWhat do covenants have to do with it? I clearly do have a poor understanding as I can't fathom how they could possibly be related to this. Please enlighten me.
Yes you are right, but that is a poor understanding of the difference between the old and new covenants, and why there is such a discrepancy.
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Originally posted by twhiteheadIn the old covenant God had to take extreme measures to save the human race from being forever trapped with a sinful nature.
What do covenants have to do with it? I clearly do have a poor understanding as I can't fathom how they could possibly be related to this. Please enlighten me.
Events unfolded in such a way, due to Satan's obstruction, that almost made it impossible for a virgin to be left to bring forth a savior, if God had not taken drastic measures by introducing the law. The law placed consequences on sin, to slow down man's corrupted nature.
There was no savior available like we have now.
It is a lengthy topic, but I can provide some links for further study...
Originally posted by checkbaiterSo are you saying that prior to about 30AD, God was the cause of pain and suffering, and since then is not, or are you saying only the Jews experienced pain and suffering he caused, or what?
In the old covenant God had to take extreme measures to save the human race from being forever trapped with a sinful nature.
I also don't get what the covenant has to do with the human race. He made the covenant with the Jews.
Originally posted by twhiteheadLike I said...It is a lengthy topic, but I can provide some links for further study...
So are you saying that prior to about 30AD, God was the cause of pain and suffering, and since then is not, or are you saying only the Jews experienced pain and suffering he caused, or what?
I also don't get what the covenant has to do with the human race. He made the covenant with the Jews.
