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Spirituality

  1. Standard member apathist
    looking for loot
    14 Jan '17 01:49
    Peace will not come from the abrahamic religions.
  2. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    14 Jan '17 02:09
    Maybe it could come from some sort of concerted subsidized international action involving benzodiazepine.
  3. 14 Jan '17 02:44
    The prince of peace will bring peace on earth.
  4. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    14 Jan '17 09:04
    Originally posted by apathist
    Peace will not come from the abrahamic religions.
    I get my peas from Tesco.

    😞
  5. Standard member black beetle
    Black Beastie
    14 Jan '17 09:35
    Originally posted by apathist
    Peace will not come from the abrahamic religions.
    Peace will not come from any religion
    😵
  6. 14 Jan '17 10:24 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    The prince of peace will bring peace on earth.
    You have a scripture for that?
    Here's one that says you're wrong:

    Matt 10:34
    "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
    (Jesus himself speaking)
  7. 14 Jan '17 12:10
    Originally posted by divegeester
    You have a scripture for that?
    Here's one that says you're wrong:

    Matt 10:34
    "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
    (Jesus himself speaking)
    Good point. I had something else in mind though.

    The word "peace" can be found in 104 verses in the New Testament of the KJV. There are a variety of applications depending on the context. The "peace" I had in mind has more to do with "peace with God" other than peace on earth. You're correct in saying Jesus doesn't bring peace on earth, in fact He will bring judgement and wrath, but not against His own. To those that believe Jesus gives peace. Peace with God.

    John 14:27
    Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

    John 16:33
    These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
  8. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    14 Jan '17 13:09
    Originally posted by josephw
    Good point. I had something else in mind though.
    Presumably, what's in your mind is interesting on some level or other to some people. But what do you think was in Jesus' mind when he said "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."?
  9. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    14 Jan '17 14:15
    Originally posted by divegeester
    You have a scripture for that?
    Here's one that says you're wrong:

    Matt 10:34
    "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
    (Jesus himself speaking)
    Was that Jesus 'while he walked the earth?'
  10. 14 Jan '17 14:45
    Originally posted by black beetle
    Peace will not come from any religion
    😵
    As long as people are in charge there will never be true peace. There may be the peace you would find in China or North Korea or perhaps Iran but that isn't peace.
  11. 14 Jan '17 14:48
    Originally posted by josephw
    Good point. I had something else in mind though.

    The word "peace" can be found in 104 verses in the New Testament of the KJV. There are a variety of applications depending on the context. The "peace" I had in mind has more to do with "peace with God" other than peace on earth. You're correct in saying Jesus doesn't bring peace on earth, in fact He will b ...[text shortened]... peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
    I thought he was talking about second coming peace where the trash will be burned.
  12. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    14 Jan '17 22:23
    Originally posted by apathist
    Peace will not come from the abrahamic religions.
    No. It will only come from inclusive ideolegies.

    Rastafarianism?
  13. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    14 Jan '17 22:24
    Originally posted by apathist
    Peace will not come from the abrahamic religions.
    No. They don't trust anyone. They think we are all bad (sinners) WITH NO HOPE OF CHANGING.
    Well that's not good for anyone now is it? Good call,sir!
  14. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    14 Jan '17 22:26
    Originally posted by FMF
    Maybe it could come from some sort of concerted subsidized international action involving benzodiazepine.
    Nah man, the tolerance builds up too quick with that ... and everyone would forget if they actually did anything good 😀
    But thnx for the suggestion,lol
  15. Standard member karoly aczel
    the Devil himself
    14 Jan '17 22:28
    Originally posted by Eladar
    As long as people are in charge there will never be true peace. There may be the peace you would find in China or North Korea or perhaps Iran but that isn't peace.
    And yet the world has many large pockets of peace and prosperity made up by (secular) people. How do you suppose that is?