-Removed-Someone posturing as teaching Christian theology who says the Son of God is not eternal is hard to say is anything else but a heretic.
The thought is against the bible plainly saying of the Son - "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever."
Now if you don't WANT the Son's throne to be forever and ever, that's something different from what God wants. That is more a matter of -
"We will not have this man to reign over us" (Luke 19:14)
“Eternal son” is not mentioned in the bible, anywhere, not even once. It is a made up term.
So you believe in an eternal kingdom of Someone who is NOT eternal ?
" . . . the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 1:11)
Another question:
Eternal life is in the Son of God.
"And this is the testimony, that God have to us eternal life and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life." (1 John 5:11,12)
Are you saying eternal life is on Someone who Himself is NOT eternal ?
Absolutely correct. The kingdom is what is being referred to as “eternal” not the son.
That makes no sense. Then you are saying "the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" is only temporarily His kingdom.
Revelation 1:18 has one like the Son of Man who lives not temporarily but forever and ever.
"I am the First and the Last and the living One; and I became dead, and behold, I am living forever and ever; and I have the keys of death and of Hades." (Rev. 1:17b-18)
If the Son of Man lives "forever and ever" then He has to be the eternal Son. Right?
God is one person appearing in different manifestations.
You are blaming me for what the Bible reveals.
Present at one time are three "manifestations".
You admitted that the Son prayed to the Father.
The Son given is called "Eternal Father" in Isaiah 9:6.
So the Son is eternal.
The Father is certainly eternal - "Eternal Father" .
And the Spirit is eternal "the eternal Spirit" (Heb. 9:11)
And the Son of God who is also the Son of Man is "living forever and ever" (Rev. 1:18).
So all three Persons (or your manifestations) of the Triune God are eternal.
@divegeester
I understand that you are what I would call a cake unturned.
That is very cooked on one side but not on the opposite side.
You emphasize that God is one God.
The other side of the Bible's revelation is that God is Father-Son-Holy Spirit.
IN Hosea 7:8 God told the tribe of Ephraim that they were like a unturned cake - all done on one side only.
I think I understand that you say the three persons of the trinity as manifestations. But the manifestations are not as those taught in modalism.
The three manifestations are present - co-eternal - co-existing at the same time.
"Father concerning that which You have given Me, I desire that they also may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory, which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world." (John 17:24)
The Father loved the Son before the foundation of the world - before the creation of the universe.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God. And the Word was God."
"And now, glorify Me along with Yourself, Father, with the glory which I had with You before the world was." (v.5)
This is the Triune God speaking.