"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God." (Rom. 8:16)
For the Holy Spirit Himself to jointly bear witness with our human spirit that we are children of God is intimate and personal.
It is also collective and corporate.
To cry "Daddy, Abba Father. My dear Father . . . Abba" is very personal. And we should do so often telling the heavenly Father we love Him personally.
"For you have not reeived a spirit of slaveru bringing you into fear again, but you have received a spriit of sonship in which we cry, Abba, Father!
The Spirit Himself witrnesses with our spirit that we are children of God." (vs.15,16)
-Removed-There is no expression in the bible called -
relationship with Christ
personal relationship with Christ
intimate relationship with Christ
None are in the bible.
What is in the bible is the statement that Jesus abides with those who keep the commandments. And these get eternal life. Those who just run their mouth and talk about having a personal relationship are mouth worshippers who get cast out.
How it detracts from the teachings of the bibl, is that I have heard many Christians say that the personal relationship means that they do not have to keep the commandments.
"Come to Me all who toil and are burdened, and I will give you rest.
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am meek and lowlu in heart, and you will find rest for our souls. For MY yoke is easy and My burden is light." (Matt. 11:28-30)
You can COME to Jesus today. I mean TODAY.
You can bring your weary burdened soul to Jesus and learn from Him.
He knows how to live God. And you can learn from being taught PERSONALLY by
Him.
"Lord Jesus. I am so tired now. I come to You Lord Jesus. Lord I come to you Lord Jesus."
If I can come to the Lord Jesus, you who are reading can also come. He will not cast out the one coming to Him for Him to be Savior and Lord - personally.
"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and him who comes to Me I shall by no means cast out. For I have come down from heaven not to do My own will but the will of Him who sent Me." (John 6:37,38)
@rajk999 saidShow me where personal relationship means keeping commandments, what verse says that?
You love making a fool of yourself. I said the words 'personal relationship with Christ' is not in the bible. Neither is Trinity, neither is rapture, neither a whole bunch of words used by the church to twist the bible.
The idea of a relationship with Christ IS IN THE BIBLE. But it involves KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS, and this fact is all over the teachings of Christ and the ...[text shortened]... for you that is a personal relationship with Christ. Your doctrine is garbage and you are an idiot.
"I love Jehovah because He has hears my voice, my suplications, because He inclines His ear to me . . ." (Psalm 116:11,2a)
This is personal.
This is intimate.
This is a relationship with a living Person - Jehovah God.
"Therefore I will call upon Him all my days." (v.2b)
I think it must be that the demons entice Rajk999 to mock this.
The Lord can be our Shepherd, With Him we lack nothing we need.
Out greatest need is God Himself.
Can anyone say the 23rd Psalm is not about a personal relationship with God?
@sonship said<<Can anyone say the 23rd Psalm is not about a personal relationship with God?>>
"I love Jehovah because He has hears my voice, my suplications, because He inclines His ear to me . . ." (Psalm 116:11,2a)
This is personal.
This is intimate.
This is a relationship with a living Person - Jehovah God.
"Therefore I will call upon Him all my days." (v.2b)
I think it must be that the demons entice Rajk999 to mock this.
The ...[text shortened]... need is God Himself.
Can anyone say the 23rd Psalm is not about a personal relationship with God?
I don’t think so.
King David says the Lord is “my” shepherd, not the Lord is “our” shepherd.
@kellyjay saidThere is nothing called a personal relationship with anybody in the bible so I do not use that expression. The closest thing one can find to that are the following expressions
Show me where personal relationship means keeping commandments, what verse says that?
- a friend
- a disciple
- a sheep
- a brother or sister of Christ
- a son
- a person who loves God and Christ
All of these are at some point referred to as people who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. Eg Jesus said ye are my friends if ye do whatsoever I command you. Go find the rest yourself. I have quoted these passages ad nauseum according to some people. But your head is like a rock
@rajk999 saidYou change your statement that I responded to?
There is nothing called a personal relationship with anybody in the bible so I do not use that expression. The closest thing one can find to that are the following expressions
- a friend
- a disciple
- a sheep
- a brother or sister of Christ
- a son
- a person who loves God and Christ
All of these are at some point referred to as people who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. ...[text shortened]... self. I have quoted these passages ad nauseum according to some people. But your head is like a rock
@rajk999 saidYou don’t think love involves a personal relationship?
There is nothing called a personal relationship with anybody in the bible so I do not use that expression. The closest thing one can find to that are the following expressions
- a friend
- a disciple
- a sheep
- a brother or sister of Christ
- a son
- a person who loves God and Christ
All of these are at some point referred to as people who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. ...[text shortened]... self. I have quoted these passages ad nauseum according to some people. But your head is like a rock
I don’t think so.
King David says the Lord is “my” shepherd, not the Lord is “our” shepherd.
Huh?
How many millions have been comforted personally by God by reciting in faith the 23rd Psalm?
How about Peter saying Jesus Christ is the Shepherd and Overseer of our souls?
"For you were like sheep being led astray, but you have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of our souls." (1 Pet. 2:25)
@rajk999 saidAt some point referring is that in the Bible or did you make that up?
There is nothing called a personal relationship with anybody in the bible so I do not use that expression. The closest thing one can find to that are the following expressions
- a friend
- a disciple
- a sheep
- a brother or sister of Christ
- a son
- a person who loves God and Christ
All of these are at some point referred to as people who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. ...[text shortened]... self. I have quoted these passages ad nauseum according to some people. But your head is like a rock