- 11 Dec '12 06:36 / 1 edit

Do you think the shroud will ever be proven to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ from the Bible?*Originally posted by RJHinds***Physicist looks at the Shroud of Turin**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbl4EmoH_jg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=QFxijCLPr_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UVxdcA8oAcw - 11 Dec '12 19:13

If it were proven either way that the shroud were genuine or fake...*Originally posted by RJHinds***Physicist looks at the Shroud of Turin**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbl4EmoH_jg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=QFxijCLPr_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=UVxdcA8oAcw

Would that change your belief in god/JC? - 11 Dec '12 19:34

I am a believer and I can not imagine anything that would change that now. However, you non-believers may need something more, like was provide to the early Christians, before you will believe. This shroud and and sudarium may be of help to their unbelief.*Originally posted by googlefudge***If it were proven either way that the shroud were genuine or fake...**

Would that change your belief in god/JC? - 11 Dec '12 20:58

Seems more likely that obviously faked mediaeval relics such as these would cement disbelief.*Originally posted by RJHinds***I am a believer and I can not imagine anything that would change that now. However, you non-believers may need something more, like was provide to the early Christians, before you will believe. This shroud and and sudarium may be of help to their unbelief.** - 11 Dec '12 21:31

The scientist that have studied the Shroud of Turin haven't been able to figure out how it was faked. So it does not seem so obvious to them. A couple of them have even stated that they now believe it could very well be the burial cloth of Jesus.*Originally posted by avalanchethecat***Seems more likely that obviously faked mediaeval relics such as these would cement disbelief.** - 11 Dec '12 21:44

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So it does not seem so obvious to them. A couple of them have even stated that they now believe it could very well be the burial cloth of Jesus.** - 11 Dec '12 21:50

Nonsense. As usual.*Originally posted by RJHinds***The scientist that have studied the Shroud of Turin haven't been able to figure out how it was faked. So it does not seem so obvious to them. A couple of them have even stated that they now believe it could very well be the burial cloth of Jesus.** - 11 Dec '12 22:17 / 1 edit

Right so you are going to keep believing whether the shroud is genuine or not.*Originally posted by RJHinds***I am a believer and I can not imagine anything that would change that now. However, you non-believers may need something more, like was provide to the early Christians, before you will believe. This shroud and and sudarium may be of help to their unbelief.**

No sane atheist is going to care either way.

And no sane theist from any other denomination is going to care either way.

In short.

Nobody cares.

So shut up and stop spamming this forum with shroud posts.

Nobody gives a damn. - 12 Dec '12 04:37

Why are you spamming this thread?*Originally posted by divegeester***so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so wh ...[text shortened]... hat? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what? so what...** - 12 Dec '12 04:39

The Shroud of Turin is a serious spirituallity subject and not spam.*Originally posted by googlefudge***Right so you are going to keep believing whether the shroud is genuine or not.**

No sane atheist is going to care either way.

And no sane theist from any other denomination is going to care either way.

In short.

Nobody cares.

So shut up and stop spamming this forum with shroud posts.

Nobody gives a damn.