1. Standard memberRingtailhunter
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    19 May '05 00:47
    Is this just an honorary or are they serious?

    They can't be......right?


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    19 May '05 01:071 edit
    Oh when the saints (when those saints)
    Come marchin' in (come marchin' in)
    Oh when the saints come marchin in (marchin in!)
    Well, I'd love to be in that number (Yeah!)
    When the saints come marchin' in! (marchin in!)

    Big audience sing-along now, lemme hear ya say YEAH!!
    (YEEEEAAAAHH!!!)
    Oh testify babies!
    (Praise da LAWD good gosh aw-MIGHTY!)
    Who's yo great big DADDY in the sky!?
    (You are da MAN-GAWD!!!)
    etc.
    EDIT I'd love to see them get down like this in those frocks.

  3. Standard memberRingtailhunter
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    19 May '05 01:13
    My point is this. Why would Pope John Paul II be up for saint, he was elected. What would make him so exceptional? Why him? What has he done that his "holding of office" not dictate?


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  4. Not Kansas
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    19 May '05 01:16
    Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
    My point is this. Why would Pope John Paul II be up for saint, he was elected. What would make him so exceptional? Why him? What has he done that his "holding of office" not dictate?


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    Don't ax me brother, I'm *dancin*
  5. London
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    19 May '05 09:13
    Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
    My point is this. Why would Pope John Paul II be up for saint, he was elected. What would make him so exceptional? Why him? What has he done that his "holding of office" not dictate?


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    Do you know anything whatsoever about [Catholic] saints?
  6. Standard memberRingtailhunter
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    19 May '05 18:36
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    Do you know anything whatsoever about [Catholic] saints?
    Could you please explain it to me.

    Could the crazy man on the corner condemning passers by, and screaming while reading from the bible...become a saint?

    What about Jerry Folwel or Billy Grahm....could they be declaired saints?

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  7. Felicific Forest
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    19 May '05 19:121 edit
    Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
    My point is this. Why would Pope John Paul II be up for saint, he was elected. What would make him so exceptional? Why him? What has he done that his "holding of office" not dictate?


    RTh


    You could start reading his books and encyclicals for a start.


    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/index.htm
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    19 May '05 20:08
    Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
    Could you please explain it to me.

    Could the crazy man on the corner condemning passers by, and screaming while reading from the bible...become a saint?

    What about Jerry Folwel or Billy Grahm....could they be declaired saints?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint
  9. Standard memberRingtailhunter
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    19 May '05 20:14
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint
    Ok, I read through it.

    Why should Pope John Paul II be sainted?
  10. London
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    19 May '05 20:26
    Originally posted by Ringtailhunter
    Ok, I read through it.

    Why should Pope John Paul II be sainted?
    If and when JPII is canonised, it will be because the Church believes he practised heroic virtue, lived a life of fidelity to God and and can act as an example and intercessor to the people of the Church. (C.f. CCC 828).
  11. Donationbbarr
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    20 May '05 01:41
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    If and when JPII is canonised, it will be because the Church believes he practised heroic virtue, lived a life of fidelity to God and and can act as an example and intercessor to the people of the Church. (C.f. CCC 828).
    These are not sufficient conditions for canonization. It must also be shown to the RCC's satisfaction that JPII performed miracles after his death.
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    20 May '05 01:59
    Originally posted by bbarr
    These are not sufficient conditions for canonization. It must also be shown to the RCC's satisfaction that JPII performed miracles after his death.
    The miracles are just proof that a saint can, indeed, intercede with God.

    I'm not sure if miracles that do not ask for intercession count towards a canonization, but I can check.
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