14 Nov 08
Originally posted by BadwaterElsewhere you chimed in:
Literally! 😵
If only more churches would teach a spirituality to sexuality, instead of calling it dirty and making it taboo, sinful, and not appropriate for any kind of conversation - much less doing.
===================================
Cruelty does not limit itself to the radical elements within Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. etc. It is independent of religion. Violence exists in the absence of religions. The perpetrators of the violent act should be held accountable for a gross injustice, but Islam itself is not at fault. They may claim to be doing it in the name of Islam but it is only a claim. Christians might kill in the name of their God but it is only a claim, for the militant fringe of Christianity are certainly not Christians. If you wish to believe that, well, that's on you.
===========================================
What is it with you? Do you like to turn your bigotry on and off according to your mood ?
14 Nov 08
Originally posted by BadwaterChristianity does not teach that sex is dirty. What Christianity teaches is that sex outside of marriage is fornication, and that fornication is a sin.
Literally! 😵
If only more churches would teach a spirituality to sexuality, instead of calling it dirty and making it taboo, sinful, and not appropriate for any kind of conversation - much less doing.
14 Nov 08
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesI don't think they needed a formal wedding and all, seein' as how there wasn't anyone else around to marry.
When did Adam and Eve get married? Sometime before they ate the forbidden fruit?
I suppose you think marriage is just some kind of man made thing created when man was primative and wanted to institute a form of female inslavement!
14 Nov 08
Originally posted by josephwWell, were they in fact married or did they fornicate before the traditionally accepted fall into sin?
I don't think they needed a formal wedding and all, seein' as how there wasn't anyone else around to marry.
I suppose you think marriage is just some kind of man made thing created when man was primative and wanted to institute a form of female inslavement!
Are you suggesting that if nobody else is around, fornication is not a sin?
- Joined
- 07 Jan 08
- Moves
- 34575
15 Nov 08
1 edit
Originally posted by jaywillWow, you are making absolutely no sense to me. What is it exactly with either comment that you're somehow interpreting as a bigoted statement?
Elsewhere you chimed in:
===================================
Cruelty does not limit itself to the radical elements within Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. etc. It is independent of religion. Violence exists in the absence of religions. The perpetrators of the violent act should be held accountable for a gross injustice, but Islam itself i ]
What is it with you? Do you like to turn your bigotry on and off according to your mood ?
- Joined
- 07 Jan 08
- Moves
- 34575
15 Nov 08
Originally posted by josephwChristian churches generally don't teach anything about sex - period. About the act. Saying what not to be doing is not helpful in learning what to do. The vast majority of churches (at least here in the US) only teach what is wrong - adultery is wrong, pre-maritial sex is wrong, masturbation is wrong, etc. There is no instruction on what is right. It's like when I had sex ed in school; it was reproductive education but nothing about sex. I had to learn the hard way and parents, school, and churches were no help. By and large they still aren't. That's the point I was addressing.
Christianity does not teach that sex is dirty. What Christianity teaches is that sex outside of marriage is fornication, and that fornication is a sin.
15 Nov 08
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesThere's no record of Adam and Eve's sex life before the fall.
Well, were they in fact married or did they fornicate before the traditionally accepted fall into sin?
Are you suggesting that if nobody else is around, fornication is not a sin?
Consider this. Before the law was given there was no prohibition against fornicating. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a sin.
15 Nov 08
Originally posted by BadwaterWhat do you mean you had to learn about sex the hard way?
Christian churches generally don't teach anything about sex - period. About the act. Saying what not to be doing is not helpful in learning what to do. The vast majority of churches (at least here in the US) only teach what is wrong - adultery is wrong, pre-maritial sex is wrong, masturbation is wrong, etc. There is no instruction on what is right. It's lik ...[text shortened]... nd churches were no help. By and large they still aren't. That's the point I was addressing.
It seems to me that learning about sex is easy. One does it untill they get it right. What's so hard about that?
Maybe what you mean is, is that you had to deal with guilt about having sex in a context you knew was wrong, and that's what made it so hard.
15 Nov 08
Originally posted by josephwDo you figure that Adam and Eve didn't have genitalia before the Fall? If they did, why did God
There's no record of Adam and Eve's sex life before the fall.
Consider this. Before the law was given there was no prohibition against fornicating. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a sin.
give it to them if not to use in the blessed rapture of conjugals? If they did engage in coïtus, then
they had to have been married, otherwise Eden wouldn't have been free from sin before the Fall.
Nemesio