Spirituality
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29 Jan 07
I don't know what a MANTRA study is, but I know what happened to me. When I was 5 or 6, I caught my hand in the trunk of a hatchback. My parnts immediately put it in ice and prayed. When they took it out of the ice, there was no break, blood, not even any evidence that it happend. That is the power of prayer.
29 Jan 07
Originally posted by AcemasterMaybe (a) bone and sinew at that age is rather flexible, (b) there were still some millimeters of space between the trunk and its lid, (c) your childhood memory is unreliable.
I don't know what a MANTRA study is, but I know what happened to me. When I was 5 or 6, I caught my hand in the trunk of a hatchback. My parnts immediately put it in ice and prayed. When they took it out of the ice, there was no break, blood, not even any evidence that it happend. That is the power of prayer.
I once squeezed my sister's finger (accidentally) in the join of a door. It hurt at lot, and temporarily bent her finger.Bbut there was no lasting damage. And I didn't even apply ice or pray.
30 Jan 07
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeDo you think prayer may have value as a "centering" type of exercise somewhat like meditation in which the body may benefit from lower stress, blood pressure, etc. ?
I don't believe in the efficacy of intercessory prayer. However, I sincerely *hope* everything will work out for you and your wife.
30 Jan 07
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeI think you will find that if miracles actually do occur, that people will continue to find ways to explain them away despite the apparent evidence to the contrary.
Maybe (a) bone and sinew at that age is rather flexible, (b) there were still some millimeters of space between the trunk and its lid, (c) your childhood memory is unreliable.
I once squeezed my sister's finger (accidentally) in the join of a door. It hurt at lot, and temporarily bent her finger.Bbut there was no lasting damage. And I didn't even apply ice or pray.
Conversly, I think you will find that when people falsely claim that miracles have occured when, in fact, they have not occured, people will continue to find ways to explain how a miracle did occur despite the apparent evidence to the contrary.
So what are we left with? If you ask me, all we are left with is our respective belief systems. So pick and choose what you want to believe. Is it faith or is it unbelief? Which belief system do you think is a healthier outlook in general?
30 Jan 07
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Originally posted by whodeyNo, I don't think I will find that.
I think you will find that if miracles actually do occur, that people will continue to find ways to explain them away despite the apparent evidence to the contrary.
Conversly, I think you will find that when people falsely claim that miracles have occured when, in fact, they have not occured, people will continue to find ways to explain how a miracle did o ...[text shortened]... it faith or is it unbelief? Which belief system do you think is a healthier outlook in general?
There is a word for people who refuse to consider reasonable alternative everyday explanations for curious events just because they don't happen to like those explanations.
That word is: bone-headed.
30 Jan 07
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeThere is a word for people who refuse to consider reasonable explanations that happen to mention miricles that were done by God just because they don't happen to like those explainations.
There is a word for people who refuse to consider reasonable alternative everyday explanations for curious events just because they don't happen to like those explanations.
That word is: bone-headed.[/b]
That word is: bone-headed.
30 Jan 07
Originally posted by AcemasterWhy did they bother with the ice?
I don't know what a MANTRA study is, but I know what happened to me. When I was 5 or 6, I caught my hand in the trunk of a hatchback. My parnts immediately put it in ice and prayed. When they took it out of the ice, there was no break, blood, not even any evidence that it happend. That is the power of prayer.
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30 Jan 07
Originally posted by AcemasterNo. I did consider the explanation. Then, I rejected it. That is perfectly reasonable.
There is a word for people who refuse to consider reasonable explanations that happen to mention miricles that were done by God just because they don't happen to like those explainations.
That word is: bone-headed.
You, however, did not even consider other explanations. You jumped thoughtlessly to a preferred conclusion. This makes you unreasonable.