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Pregnant Smokers and Drinkers

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Originally posted by KneverKnight
Is smoking while pregnant illogical, unclean, or both?
I didn't intend to give a full enumeration of the sufficient conditions for disgust, only a counterexample that disgust can come from things other than associations with uncleanliness or disease. I don't think smoking while pregnant is illogical or unclean, but nonetheless, it disgusts me. It disgusts me that the mother intends to bring a child into the world for whom she is already showing a lack of love, respect, and proper regard for its well-being.

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
I didn't intend to give a full enumeration of the sufficient conditions for disgust, only a counterexample that disgust can come from things other that associations with uncleanliness or disease. I don't think smoking while pregnant is illogical or unclean, but nonetheless, it disgusts me. It disgusts me that the mother intends to bring a child i ...[text shortened]... d for whom she is already showing a lack of love, respect, and proper regard for its well-being.
Or, maybe she's just an addict.

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Does anybody else besides me feel disgusted upon seeing a pregnant woman smoking?

It is harmful to the unborn child, therefore it is a form of child abuse.

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
I didn't intend to give a full enumeration of the sufficient conditions for disgust, only a counterexample that disgust can come from things other that associations with uncleanliness or disease. I don't think smoking while pregnant is illogical or unclean, but nonetheless, it disgusts me. It disgusts me that the mother intends to bring a child i ...[text shortened]... d for whom she is already showing a lack of love, respect, and proper regard for its well-being.
Surely you don't believe everything that disgusts you should be punishable under the criminal law?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe

It is harmful to the unborn child, therefore it is a form of child abuse.
How about a pregnant woman being overweight? Or not eating a balanced diet? Or not exercising as much as recommended by her doctor? Are all these things (and many more) that are potentially harmful to an "unborn child" all child abuse?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
How about a pregnant woman being overweight? Or not eating a balanced diet? Or not exercising as much as recommended by her doctor? Are all these things (and many more) that are potentially harmful to an "unborn child" all child abuse?
Not to mention the effects of introducing and reinforcing like behavior to the child after it's born.

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http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1170.asp

Although many women are aware that heavy drinking during pregnancy can cause birth defects, many do not realize that moderate—or even light—drinking also may harm the fetus.

In fact, no level of alcohol use during pregnancy has been proven safe. Therefore, the March of Dimes recommends that pregnant women do not drink any alcohol—including beer, wine, wine coolers and hard liquor— throughout their pregnancy and while nursing. In addition, because women often do not know they are pregnant for a few months, women who may be pregnant or those who are attempting to become pregnant should abstain from alcoholic beverages.

http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/681_1170.asp

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Surely you don't believe everything that disgusts you should be punishable under the criminal law?
No, certainly not. You'll note that I didn't even mention it until many pages into this thread, and even then not as part of any argument or analysis. I only brought it up because nobody else did, and I was wondering if my disgust was unique.

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Sorry

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Is it proper to tell a pregnant smoker/drinker that she is at risk of harming her unborn child?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
How about a pregnant woman being overweight? Or not eating a balanced diet? Or not exercising as much as recommended by her doctor? Are all these things (and many more) that are potentially harmful to an "unborn child" all child abuse?

If she is voluntarily behaving in such a way causing harm to the unborn child then this constitutes a form of child abuse and she should change her ways.

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Originally posted by eagles54
Is it proper to tell a pregnant smoker/drinker that she is at risk of harming her unborn child?


Yes.

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Originally posted by eagles54
Is it proper to tell a pregnant smoker/drinker that she is at risk of harming her unborn child?

I don't think it would be your duty. Unless she's a moron, she should know already.

If she's a friend, it might be a good idea as a friend to offer to help her quite (this is assuming the best of her and that she wants to quit and is having trouble).

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Originally posted by eagles54
Is it proper to tell a pregnant smoker/drinker that she is at risk of harming her unborn child?

A stranger on the street? Or someone you know?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
A stranger on the street? Or someone you know?
Anyone. I don't think there is a differentiation for practical purposes.