Presbyterian v Anglican

Originally posted by twhitehead
Of course in light of Nemesio's comments and your original question I think you should seriously look into your own faith and identify what it is. If you were not fully aware of the differences between presbyterians and Anglicans then is is probable that you do not actually know or agree with many of the things that you say "Amen" to in the presbyterian Church.

Why should i beware of another man's faith? I find that quite a strange statement from you, if you don't mind me saying. The fact that i don't know what an anglican believes has no bearing on my own beliefs, no?

Originally posted by huckleberryhound
Why should i beware of another man's faith? I find that quite a strange statement from you, if you don't mind me saying. The fact that i don't know what an anglican believes has no bearing on my own beliefs, no?

Of course it should. If you were that painfully unaware that other Christian
denominations believed according to different theological frameworks -- especially
one so vastly different as to be almost antithetical -- then it means it's very
probable that you haven't taken stock in the variety of faith traditions that
Christianity affords. I mean, if you don't know what it means to be Presbyterian
as opposed to Anglican, then how do you know that the former's framework
is in greater accord with the teachings of Jesus than the latter?

Why would ignorance ever be preferable to knowledge?

Nemesio

Originally posted by Nemesio
Of course it should. If you were that painfully unaware that other Christian
denominations believed according to different theological frameworks -- especially
one so vastly different as to be almost antithetical -- then it means it's very
probable that you haven't taken stock in the variety of faith traditions that
Christianity affords. I mean, if you ...[text shortened]... of Jesus than the latter?

Why would ignorance ever be preferable to knowledge?

Nemesio

then how do you know that the former's framework
is in greater accord with the teachings of Jesus than the latter?

You think that “double predestination” is “in greater accord” with the teachings of Jesus?! I suspect that you are speaking “tongue in cheek” here.

Originally posted by Nemesio
Of course it should. If you were that painfully unaware that other Christian
denominations believed according to different theological frameworks -- especially
one so vastly different as to be almost antithetical -- then it means it's very
probable that you haven't taken stock in the variety of faith traditions that
Christianity affords. I mean, if you ...[text shortened]... of Jesus than the latter?

Why would ignorance ever be preferable to knowledge?

Nemesio

Oh my god,you're right.




......and now i'm in the wilderness 🙁

Originally posted by vistesd
You think that “double predestination” is “in greater accord” with the teachings of Jesus?! I suspect that you are speaking “tongue in cheek” here.

Vistesd: If you're joking, I can't tell, but I don't know what double
predestination is. I think, of the mainstream denominations, Calvinism
represents the worst interpretation of the teachings of Jesus.

I was merely observing that in order to best select a place in which to
worship, one must know the tenets of that particular tradition's beliefs,
if one cares about having a well-informed faith.

Nemesio

Originally posted by huckleberryhound
Oh my god,you're right.




......and now i'm in the wilderness 🙁

If you're being sincere, then all you have to do is read and inwardly
digest the various 'FAQs' for denominations and then discuss their merits
and failings with various members of those denominations. If you are
genuinely interested in being a good Christian, then what could be more
important than research about your faith?

Nemesio

Originally posted by Nemesio
If you're being sincere, then all you have to do is read and inwardly
digest the various 'FAQs' for denominations and then discuss their merits
and failings with various members of those denominations. If you are
genuinely interested in being a good Christian, then what could be more
important than research about your faith?

Nemesio

So, in order to be a good christian, i have to learn about other denominations. That seems quite wrong to me, the concept that a non-learned believer is not a good christian. I'm guessing you're an athiest.

Originally posted by huckleberryhound
So, in order to be a good christian, i have to learn about other denominations. That seems quite wrong to me, the concept that a non-learned believer is not a good christian. I'm guessing you're an athiest.

I am not atheist, actually. I'm a person who takes matters of faith seriously.

Since you don't know what Anglicans believe (and I doubt you really know what
Presbyterians believe), how can you say you've made the best decision about
which church to attend? How can you say you've got a well-formed opinion
on matters of belief?

It's not like I'm suggesting something outlandish like researching the practices
of Native Peruvian Sun-god religions. But not knowing generally what other
Christian traditions hold to be True seems pretty theologically irresponsible.

Or are you one of those 'believers' who already knows everything there is
to know about faith in order to guarantee your salvation?

Nemesio

may i suggest the united methodists. they do not take the bible literally as they understand it is part revelation, part history, part metaphor and part error on the part of man and this is why they include reason as a necesary adjunct. it is like a two-wheel bike. reason is in the front for direction and faith is the rear wheel which
provides power. the united methodists are inclusive in that both men and women can lead but they do not accept homosexual marriage.
they have a monthly eucharist and all who believe in john 3:16 may
partake of the sacrament without being baptized methodists.

Originally posted by reinfeld
they have a monthly eucharist and all who believe in john 3:16 may
partake of the sacrament without being baptized methodists.

The frequency with which Methodists have Eucharists varies from congregation
to congregation. Some only do so once only quarterly, some have Eucharist
every Sunday.

Nemesio

Originally posted by Nemesio
I am not atheist, actually. I'm a person who takes matters of faith seriously.

Since you don't know what Anglicans believe (and I doubt you really know what
Presbyterians believe), how can you say you've made the best decision about
which church to attend? How can you say you've got a well-formed opinion
on matters of belief?

It's not lik ...[text shortened]... verything there is
to know about faith in order to guarantee your salvation?

Nemesio

No, but i do know about self righteousness.