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I spent a good 15 seconds laughing at "fatal flaw #3", so I couldn't reply that it was garbage in the first 10 seconds either...
Originally posted by josephwSince intelligent design (read creationism) is such valid science, do you have a working formula for how God created the earth in 6 days?
Well, I don't know whether or not they're liars, but is there a so called working formula for evolution?
As you know, I don't know squat about algorithms.
Originally posted by forkedknightcreationists don't need a working formula because their claim is not a scientifical theory that needs to be proven but an undisputable fact. because the a book written thousands of years ago says it is.
Since intelligent design (read creationism) is such valid science, do you have a working formula for how God created the earth in 6 days?
Originally posted by FabianFnasBut that amounts to an admission that one is wrong, whilst attempting to pretend that both are correct but incompatible. Why not just say "science beats religion".
This is what I've always said: Don't mix religion and science - they don't simply go very well together.
Originally posted by twhiteheadWouldn't that be provocative?
Why not just say "science beats religion".
Originally posted by FabianFnasAnd whats wrong with that? Why lie just to 'be nice'?
Wouldn't that be provocative?
Originally posted by twhiteheadI think that you and I have completely different views on the matter. I just don't make it into a fight who is right and who is wrong.
And whats wrong with that? Why lie just to 'be nice'?
I say that everyone has their right to a religion - if - they grant the same right to anyone else.
Of course everyone has a right to be deluded - did I say otherwise? But allowing others to delude themeselves is not the same as claiming that they are correct (as you were doing).
But as ou do not want to criticize religion (be provocative) even though you know it is nonsense.
Originally posted by FabianFnasBut you are using your reluctance to start a fight (and thus refusal to outright call anyone 'wrong'😉, to justify your claim that religion and science cannot overlap or interfere in each others territory. That is bad logic.
I think that you and I have completely different views on the matter. I just don't make it into a fight who is right and who is wrong.
Originally posted by twhiteheadPlease, don't use examples that are obvious what is right and what is wrong. 1+1=2, true. A fridge may be empty, true. Now we're using claims that are much more difficult to see the value of thruth in it. Like "is there any god". Then it's about religious claims that cannot be proven.
But you are using your reluctance to start a fight (and thus refusal to outright call anyone 'wrong'😉, to justify your claim that religion and science cannot overlap or interfere in each others territory. That is bad logic.
I am not trying to start a fight, I am hoping instead to enlighten you and help you see the flaw in your logic.
If you had simply ...[text shortened]... with discussion, the right standpoint can be understood and agreed upon by both parties.