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Originally posted by divegeesterhe isn't really an arab, he's from Ohio.
It's all about "destroy" with you isn't. You remind me of an Arabian Fu Manchu.
Originally posted by daniel58actually i don't believe that i will go to heaven Daniel, if i die i will cease to exist, my thoughts shall perish, i will be conscious of nothing at all. No, bliss, no pain,! My hope towards God is that i may be at some future point be resurrected after death, but when that is, i do not know! i thought all Christians hoped to be resurrected, but if they do not die but simply go to another heavenly dimension, then why resurrect them? it does not make any sense to me, at least.
I hope you don't believe this, but it's false, you can't bring anything with you.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat's what happens at the Last Judgment, but before that you go to Heaven, Hell or Purgatory.
actually i don't believe that i will go to heaven Daniel, if i die i will cease to exist, my thoughts shall perish, i will be conscious of nothing at all. No, bliss, no pain,! My hope towards God is that i may be at some future point be resurrected after death, but when that is, i do not know! i thought all Christians hoped to be resurrected, but if ...[text shortened]... other heavenly dimension, then why resurrect them? it does not make any sense to me, at least.
Originally posted by daniel58mmmm, but why then resurrect people back to the earth if they are in heaven? for the Bible as far as i am aware Daniel indicates that the resurrection will be earthly, for those who hear Christ voice are in their memorial tombs, or the grave, which is on earth. is it not so?
That's what happens at the Last Judgment, but before that you go to Heaven, Hell or Purgatory.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell that is true, but that's when we get our bodies back, but our souls will already be somewhere else, it's when our bodies and souls will be reunited, and go back to the place they came from.
mmmm, but why then resurrect people back to the earth if they are in heaven? for the Bible as far as i am aware Daniel indicates that the resurrection will be earthly, for those who hear Christ voice are in their memorial tombs, or the grave, which is on earth. is it not so?
Originally posted by daniel58Daniel, i hope you don't mind me saying this, but you have entered the realms of pure speculation, for again it does not appear to me to be referenced anywhere in scripture, although i may stand corrected, nor make much sense for a logistical point of view, to take someone from earth, to heaven, hell or purgatory, and then back again.
Heaven, Hell or Purgatory.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell you got the fist judgment, or personal, then you got the Last Judgment where everyone is in the Valley of Josaphat (or Valley of Jehoshaphat) is mentioned in only one passage of the Bible, in Joel 3.2 (Hebrew text, 4).
Daniel, i hope you don't mind me saying this, but you have entered the realms of pure speculation, for again it does not appear to me to be referenced anywhere in scripture, although i may stand corrected, nor make much sense for a logistical point of view, to take someone from earth, to heaven, hell or purgatory, and then back again.
Originally posted by daniel58this is an interesting point that Daniel raises here? for apparently there are two resurrections, any thoughts on what this means?
Well you got the fist judgment, or personal, then you got the Last Judgment where everyone is in the Valley of Josaphat (or Valley of Jehoshaphat) is mentioned in only one passage of the Bible, in Joel 3.2 (Hebrew text, 4).