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01 Oct 18
Originally posted by @sonshipSure, but only if we don’t use tiger as an example - it’s too upsetting. He’s only eight years old!
To a comment made by Romans1009 to Divegeester -
Don’t you think you’ll be raptured too, tiger? We all get raptured at the same time.
How do you know that all believers will be raptured at the same time?
Shall we have a little Christ honoring examination of that question?
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01 Oct 18
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Originally posted by @romans1009We will use Jack Wilmore as an example. That's me, sonship.
Sure, but only if we don’t use tiger as an example - it’s too upsetting. He’s only eight years old!
My God is the man Jesus Christ - my Lord and Savior.
Do you think that if I am lying in a bed of fornication and Jesus comes as a thief in the night that I will be raptured ?
Do you think all Christians will be raptured at one time merely because they have been justified by faith ?
IF so why is there usually associated with rapture the warning to watch and be ready ? I mean a warning rather than assuming rapture will be automatic regardless of state of consecration to God?
01 Oct 18
Originally posted by @sonshipDidn't Jesus up the ante with 'thoughts', saying if you 'think' about your neighbors wife in a sexual way then you've still committed adultery? Even though you didn't touch her?
We will use Jack Wilmore as an example. That's me, sonship.
My God is the man Jesus Christ - my Lord and Savior.
Do you think that if I am lying in a bed of fornication and Jesus comes as a thief in the night that I will be raptured ?
Do you think all Christians will be raptured at one time merely because they have been justified by faith ?
IF ...[text shortened]... rning rather than assuming rapture will be automatic regardless of state of consecration to God?
If so, aren't we all basically screwed?
Unless of course someone claims to have pure thoughts at all times.
01 Oct 18
Originally posted by @chaney3Christians believe they are forgiven by Jesus if they believe they are forgiven by Jesus.
Didn't Jesus up the ante with 'thoughts', saying if you 'think' about your neighbors wife in a sexual way then you've still committed adultery? Even though you didn't touch her?
If so, aren't we all basically screwed?
Unless of course someone claims to have pure thoughts at all times.
Originally posted by @chaney3Yeah absolutely, maybe sonship believes a believer in Jesus can have his "salvation" retracted and cancelled for "thinking about his neighbour's wife in a sexual way". Maybe that's sonship's theology.
Unless they don't have time to ask for forgiveness of 'fresh' sins, as the rapture is taking place.
I think that was sonship's point.
01 Oct 18
Originally posted by @fmfAny sin.
Yeah absolutely, maybe sonship believes a believer in Jesus can have his "salvation" retracted and cancelled for "thinking about his neighbour's wife in a sexual way". Maybe that's sonship's theology.
If a person is in the act of stealing $20 from the cash register at work, as the rapture commences....do they get left behind?
It's not just sonship, I've heard this before from others.
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02 Oct 18
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Originally posted by @chaney3We are all candidate for salvation.
Didn't Jesus up the ante with 'thoughts', saying if you 'think' about your neighbors wife in a sexual way then you've still committed adultery? Even though you didn't touch her?
If so, aren't we all basically screwed?
Unless of course someone claims to have pure thoughts at all times.
We are all candidatess in need of the cleansing blood of Jesus washing away every and all our sins.
We are all fertile ground for the Spirit of Christ to come into us and begin to do a truly INSIDE JOB at liberating our mind, emotion, and will.
We are all candidates for Christ to work the miracles of grace upon us and within us.
Unless of course someone claims to have pure thoughts at all times.
This Person of wonderful purity is alive and available.
That is the Good News.
Good News = Jesus Christ is the Perfect Man.
Good News = Jesus Christ is available to be known.
Good News = Jesus Christ can obliterate into the sea of eternal forgetfulness our every sin, so that God looks upon as if we have never sinned at all.
Good News = the living and available Savior Jesus has a way to enter into the innermost part of your spiritual being and blend into you.
This is the Gospel. This is the Good News.
He can also lead us into a most blessed married life of rich joy.
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @sonshipYou're the one who brought up fornicating while the rapture starts.
We are all candidate for salvation.
We are all candidatess in need of the cleansing blood of Jesus washing away every and all our sins.
We are all fertile ground for the Spirit of Christ to come into us and begin to do a truly INSIDE JOB at liberating our mind, emotion, and will.
We are all candidates for Christ to work the miracles of [b]grace ...[text shortened]... el. This is the Good News.
He can also lead us into a most blessed married life of rich joy.
All I did was ask a question about it, which I'm not sure you answered?
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02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @chaney3Your last question was something like "Aren't we all screwed ? "
You're the one who brought up fornicating while the rapture starts.
All I did was ask a question about it, which I'm not sure you answered?
I thought your question was more basic and need attention.
It would do little good for me to discuss raptures with someone who holds to the despair that "We are all screwed".
This would be like trying to get to home plate for a home run before getting to first base.
Now, once we receive Jesus we go on to walk in Him.
Every time we call on His name to touch Him from our hearts we experience a little mini - rapture out of many temptations and problems.
Rapture comes from practicing little mini-raptures throughout the day turning our heart to the living and available Jesus. Many little snatchings away by the Spirit of Christ builds up a habit of being caught up by Jesus.
We should build up a habit of having Jesus rescue us from many things seeking to keep us down. Turning to Jesus instantly makes us buoyant and lifts us up, sets us above.
One day the believers will just be taken physically to where she or he is use to being in heart and spirit each day.
02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @chaney3Just so you know, if someone misses the rapture, that alone does not mean that they also fell short of salvation. Many during the Tribulation will come to Jesus, notably, many Jews will be among them.
Any sin.
If a person is in the act of stealing $20 from the cash register at work, as the rapture commences....do they get left behind?
It's not just sonship, I've heard this before from others.
Getting 'left behind' doesn't mean you're out for good.
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02 Oct 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterThe pretense of substance is long gone.
It’s notable that Romans1009 ducks out of meaningful debate with sonship.
Now it's all about the creepy stalking.