08 Jun 08
re·li·gion
–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Wrong!
Religion is what man does to establish a relationship with God based on his own efforts.
The relationship between God and man is established by God and what He has done and what He is doing. You cannot find God no matter how hard you try. God will find you.
If you don't know God, or that there is a God, it's because you are hiding from Him.
The Bible is like God's wanted poster. It says, "Wanted, any man that desires eternal life." God is looking for you. He's done everything He can to make it possible for you to know Him. Quit hiding from God!
08 Jun 08
Originally posted by josephwAlways ready to redefine words for your own propogandist end.
re·li·gion
–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Wrong!
Religion is what man does to establish a rela ...[text shortened]... He's done everything He can to make it possible for you to know Him. Quit hiding from God!
08 Jun 08
Originally posted by josephwYou think this is *wrong* because it doesn't explain *your* way of seeing *your* god.
re·li·gion
–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Wrong!
Religion is what man does to establish a rela ...[text shortened]... He's done everything He can to make it possible for you to know Him. Quit hiding from God!
Religion is not only christianity of your kind, but of all religions of any kind. Your explanation is narrow, you have to widen up some.
08 Jun 08
Originally posted by scottishinnzCome on now! Don't be narrow minded. This is just a post in a forum.
Always ready to redefine words for your own propogandist end.
Try to be a little more open minded. I made a point. Don't let your bias blind you to the possibility that you may be missing the greatest opportunity of your life.
The existence of God can't be proved. Proving the existence of God is a futile exercise in that no proof is necessary. The existence of everything is the proof of God's existence.
You are simply denying it within yourself.
Am I evil for wanting you to know God? Since when did you figure this whole world out to the degree that you can say with absolute certainty, "there is no God"?
Quit hiding from God. I did. And now He lives in me. If you think I'm diluted, then think again.
08 Jun 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasPay closer attention will you?
You think this is *wrong* because it doesn't explain *your* way of seeing *your* god.
Religion is not only christianity of your kind, but of all religions of any kind. Your explanation is narrow, you have to widen up some.
The first definition of religion is man's definition.
The definition I offered is one that requires that God be the one that establishes the relationship between man and God, and not what man does.
One might think that YOU would be a little more open minded!
Can't you see what I'm saying here?
08 Jun 08
Originally posted by josephwWould you ever consider going in to the ministry?
Pay closer attention will you?
The first definition of religion is man's definition.
The definition I offered is one that requires that God be the one that establishes the relationship between man and God, and not what man does.
One might think that YOU would be a little more open minded!
Can't you see what I'm saying here?
08 Jun 08
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Originally posted by kirksey957I am. But I avoid organised religion. My credentials are not administered by man. I've been through that.
Would you ever consider going in to the ministry?
One is "saved" by the working of God and not by his own ingenuity or strength. We either trust in what God is doing, and learn from Him what that is, or we flail in the darkness.
Could it be otherwise?
Ro 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
The renewing of the mind! Christianity is the thinking man's "religion".
08 Jun 08
Originally posted by josephwWhy do you try to put words in my mouth??
Come on now! Don't be narrow minded. This is just a post in a forum.
Try to be a little more open minded. I made a point. Don't let your bias blind you to the possibility that you may be missing the greatest opportunity of your life.
The existence of God can't be proved. Proving the existence of God is a futile exercise in that no proof is necessary. ...[text shortened]... ding from God. I did. And now He lives in me. If you think I'm diluted, then think again.
You accuse me of bias because I don't agree with you. Who's REALLY biased??
You accuse me of saying with 100% certainty that God doesn't exist. I do not maintain that. I would say that the probability of a god existing is low, perhaps 0.00000000000000001%, with the possibility of the Christian God, the malevolent being that he supposedly is, several orders of magnitude lower, but not impossible.
I don't suppose you are evil - when did I ever say you were?? I just think you are delusional.
You think God lives in you? Great! How much does he weigh? Where does he live? What's his chemical structure? No fudges now, I want specifics, or I'll treat you with the same contempt I do to Roswell conspiracy theorists. That's fair warning, I'd say.
08 Jun 08
Originally posted by josephwlol
re·li·gion
–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Wrong!
Religion is what man does to establish a rela ...[text shortened]... He's done everything He can to make it possible for you to know Him. Quit hiding from God!
08 Jun 08
Originally posted by josephwIf I can't understand what you mean is because you have not explained it enough.
One might think that YOU would be a little more open minded!
Can't you see what I'm saying here?
Religion is not only christian religion, but also any religion. The definition doesn't see christianity as one and only one possible religion. How can this be wrong? That's what I mean as being narrow minded. Please open your eyes. There are other religions too, you know.
09 Jun 08
Originally posted by josephwDefinitions are, by definition, neither true nor false, and hence cannot be wrong. The dictionary lists what is believed by the dictionary writers to be common usage of a word. They can be wrong, but in this case, as you are probably the only person in the word who desires to use this particular word differently, they are correct.
re·li·gion
–noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Wrong!
You are free to have your own opinions about how a person should search for God etc but to claim a dictionary definition is wrong just shows your ignorance.
10 Jun 08
Originally posted by scottishinnzthe new testament god is supposed to be malevolent. the christian god is quite a few orders fluffier than the OT god. it was the catholics that made him into a jerk
Why do you try to put words in my mouth??
You accuse me of bias because I don't agree with you. Who's REALLY biased??
You accuse me of saying with 100% certainty that God doesn't exist. I do not maintain that. I would say that the probability of a god existing is low, perhaps 0.00000000000000001%, with the possibility of the Christian God, the ...[text shortened]... h the same contempt I do to Roswell conspiracy theorists. That's fair warning, I'd say.
10 Jun 08
"Religion is what man does to establish a relationship with God based on his own efforts"
Of course there are many religions which do not accept the existence or a need for a creator god - Buddhism being one example therefore the above is clearly nonsense.
"The relationship between God and man is established by God and what He has done and what He is doing. You cannot find God no matter how hard you try. God will find you".
And the evidence for this is what exactly?