Originally posted by FMF
I suppose, for me, the 'problem' is more about whether or not there is a baby in the bathwater at all.

Yes. That is my problem with Suzianne's oft used metaphor about throwing
the baby out with the bathwater...

It's the existence of the baby that is under discussion... And it is that, that
neither she, nor anyone else has actually demonstrated.

Originally posted by FMF
Not especially. I already have the measure of you and your mind map.

Not even close. What you have a measure of is what I show you.

"But for me, none of the self-styled proselytizers here offer any convincing evidence that God has revealed Himself to them ~.."

Don't be so ingenuous. You're looking for something you don't know. At least be honest with yourself. But if you think your knowledge is so complete, then why are you in here debating? Is it just to make someone look foolish? I don't need your help for that!

Originally posted by josephw
But if you think your knowledge is so complete, then why are you in here debating?

The why are you here, anyway? 'debating point' is about the most hackneyed cop out there is on this forum. Thread 157451

Originally posted by josephw
What you have a measure of is what I show you.

Yes, sure, and I am only concerned with what you write here on this forum.