1. SubscriberFMF
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    25 May '14 05:17
    "A growing number of people are describing themselves as spiritual but not religious. This is not a trend of which Tom Shakespeare approves. In this week's Point of View he argues, rather, that we should be religious but not spiritual."

    http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/pov/pov_20140523-2100a.mp3

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pov#42905878531746566

    Eleven minute long thought-provoking BBC "A Point Of View" podcast.
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    25 May '14 06:32
    Originally posted by FMF
    "A growing number of people are describing themselves as spiritual but not religious. This is not a trend of which Tom Shakespeare approves. In this week's Point of View he argues, rather, that we should be religious but not spiritual."

    http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/pov/pov_20140523-2100a.mp3

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pov#42905878531746566

    Eleven minute long thought-provoking BBC "A Point Of View" podcast.
    What one believes will effect what one does.
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    25 May '14 10:52
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What one believes will effect what one does.
    'effect' or 'affect' ?
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    Cain was probably the first person who was religious but not spiritual. The example he left is that his jealousy drove him to hate and kill his brother Abel.

    God accepted Abel's offering but rejected Cain's though He loved both men (Genesis 4).

    Religious but not spiritual leads too often to persecution of the spiritual by the "religious but not spiritual".
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    25 May '14 11:54
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    'effect' or 'affect' ?
    How dare you question the Instructor in that way.
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    25 May '14 12:53
    Originally posted by divegeester
    How dare you question the Instructor in that way.
    The Infallible Instructor ? 🙂
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    25 May '14 12:59
    Originally posted by sonship
    Cain was probably the first person who was religious but not spiritual. The example he left is that his jealousy drove him to hate and kill his brother Abel.

    God accepted Abel's offering but rejected Cain's though He loved both men [b](Genesis 4)
    .

    Religious but not spiritual leads too often to persecution of the spiritual by the "religious but not spiritual".[/b]
    Genesis 4 says that? It is not in mine.
    The Council of 'God's' Bible maybe?
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    25 May '14 13:04
    Originally posted by sonship
    Cain was probably the first person who was religious but not spiritual. The example he left is that his jealousy drove him to hate and kill his brother Abel.

    God accepted Abel's offering but rejected Cain's though He loved both men [b](Genesis 4)
    .

    Religious but not spiritual leads too often to persecution of the spiritual by the "religious but not spiritual".[/b]
    Preach it brother, God gave you great revelation!
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    25 May '14 15:40
    Originally posted by FMF
    "A growing number of people are describing themselves as spiritual but not religious. This is not a trend of which Tom Shakespeare approves. In this week's Point of View he argues, rather, that we should be religious but not spiritual."

    http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/pov/pov_20140523-2100a.mp3

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pov#42905878531746566

    Eleven minute long thought-provoking BBC "A Point Of View" podcast.
    Psalm 51:16-17
    16 You do not desire a sacrifice, or I would offer one.
    You do not want a burnt offering.
    17 The sacrifice you desire is a broken spirit.
    You will not reject a broken and repentant heart, O God.

    Religion is acts of service to please God, Trying to work your way. Being spiritual has nothing to do with working your way to God.
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    25 May '14 15:48
    Originally posted by FMF
    "A growing number of people are describing themselves as spiritual but not religious. This is not a trend of which Tom Shakespeare approves. In this week's Point of View he argues, rather, that we should be religious but not spiritual."

    http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/pov/pov_20140523-2100a.mp3

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pov#42905878531746566

    Eleven minute long thought-provoking BBC "A Point Of View" podcast.
    A man makes himself 'religious', but is made spiritual by God.
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    25 May '14 16:371 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    A man makes himself 'religious', but is made spiritual by God.
    A lot of Christians here ~ such as yourself, and Kelly Jay, and Grampy Bobby, and RJHinds, and others ~ to me, anyway, come across as merely religionist and theologically technocratic ~ and not as spiritual at all, at least not in a way that affects others [beyond 'preaching to the choir'], not in a way that means much to me.

    Having said that, I do accept that your religionist zeal and your sterile "technocratichristian" stances [oh boy, I've coined a new word! Have I?] might conjure up some sort of 'spiritual dimension' that you enjoy or that helps you to create meaning in your life or give you some comfort as you try to come to terms with the inevitability of death.

    For me, a lot of this stuff you and your fellow religionists exhibit is related to psychology ~ with some anthropology thrown in ~ and it does not constitute a significant or involving kind of spirituality.
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    25 May '14 17:13
    Originally posted by FMF
    ...sterile "technocratichristian" stances...
    GOGGLE: "About 1,200,000 results (0.36 seconds)
    Showing results for technocratic christian

    No results found for technocratichristian".

    By jove, I've done it!
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    25 May '14 17:211 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    GOGGLE: "About 1,200,000 results (0.36 seconds)
    Showing results for technocratic christian

    No results found for technocratichristian".

    By jove, I've done it!
    Maybe before you go pounding yourself on the back, you set yourself as the creator of record by defining this word you made.


    Edit: I'm gonna run out right now and make a new search engine called "Goggle". I'll get plenty of spillover from the dyslexics and others who just can't type well, I guess.
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    25 May '14 17:26
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Maybe before you go pounding yourself on the back, you set yourself as the creator of record by defining this word you made.
    Nope. I have given it to the world. It is now for the world to project whatever meanings they wish onto it ~ suffice to say it is something subtly different from "technocratic christian" [in all its faintly riff-raffish 1,200,000-ness]. No. I shall take a step back and see where this 21st century world takes my newly minted lexicographical item.
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    25 May '14 17:32
    "No results containing all your search terms were found.

    Your search - "technocratichristian" - did not match any documents.

    Suggestions:

    * Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
    * Try different keywords.
    * Try more general keywords."
    * Tell people about it, savour the moment
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