1. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    "One of the clearest trends I observed is the inverse correlation between religiosity and verbal IQ (the GSS includes a verbal IQ test). In other words, people who are more religious tend to be less intelligent. "

    http://www.halfsigma.com/2006/06/religious_peopl.html
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    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    "One of the clearest trends I observed is the inverse correlation between religiosity and verbal IQ (the GSS includes a verbal IQ test). In other words, people who are more religious tend to be less intelligent. "

    http://www.halfsigma.com/2006/06/religious_peopl.html
    If you accept this, you must accept the Bell Curve.
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    11 Oct '06 20:21
    Originally posted by Palynka
    If you accept this, you must accept the Bell Curve.
    Despite my bias against it, I find that book very interesting. I do not reject it. Nor do I accept it wholeheartedly. It's on my list for books to deeply analyze someday.
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    11 Oct '06 21:21
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Despite my bias against it, I find that book very interesting. I do not reject it. Nor do I accept it wholeheartedly. It's on my list for books to deeply analyze someday.
    Yeah, if you can get some religious nut-job to essplain the big words to ya.
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    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    "One of the clearest trends I observed is the inverse correlation between religiosity and verbal IQ (the GSS includes a verbal IQ test). In other words, people who are more religious tend to be less intelligent. "

    http://www.halfsigma.com/2006/06/religious_peopl.html
    That is interesting. While living in Boston between 1978 and 1987 I worshipped with quite a few people who were Harvard and MIT students.

    One who was a metals expert went to work for the steal industry in Pittsburgh. He had an A average at Massachusett's Institute of Technology. He also did a lot of research on Bible study of which I still have his quite well documented papers.

    Another Christian brother of mine was a astronomy major at MIT. He went on to apply his skills to helping Oil companies locate reserves of oil.

    Dr. Raymond Chao worshipped with us on occasion. There was an article about his research on faster than light laser research at Berkley. The article came out in the late 80s in either Newsweek or Time. He also wrote a gospel track called "Beyond Reason?"

    Some of the engineers and doctors in my congregation would be amused to learn that their Christian faith is likely to brand them as less intelligent.

    Since I have become a Christian I have worshipped with

    Statiscians, Astronomers, Dentists, Medical Doctors, Philosophy professors (one is a dean of Philosophy at Stony Brook College - Dr. Donald Welton), concert performing musicians, a symphony conductor, an undercover agent, more than one lawyer, a few accountants, an actor, psychologists, many programmer analysts and information specialists.

    I have known Christians who have strong faith in Jesus Christ in many walks of life. I don't know exactly what you define as "religious." But these people's faith has not interfered with their cognitive responsibilites in these professions.

    One of the elders in the congregation in New York where I worshipped and was married is an Atomic Physicist at Brookhaven Labs - Dr. James Chu. I can't detect that his faith in God has interfered with his research and administrative responsibilities in Atomic Physics.

    Have you read any of the published debates of William Lane Craig against famous Atheists? Go check out the Virtual Office of William Lane Craig and read through some of his many debates.

    I would also recommend you check out the web site of Lambert Dolphins a scientist and a Christian. You might also check out the site of Arthur Custance - The Doorway Papers.


    I'm glad that God doesn't just love smart people. He loves you!
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    12 Oct '06 14:42
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    "One of the clearest trends I observed is the inverse correlation between religiosity and verbal IQ (the GSS includes a verbal IQ test). In other words, people who are more religious tend to be less intelligent. "

    http://www.halfsigma.com/2006/06/religious_peopl.html
    http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:GXug6Kta06IJ:www.mat.univie.ac.at/~neum/sciandf/contrib/clari.txt+mathematicians+believe+in+God&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=2
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    12 Oct '06 14:561 edit
    I noticed that AThousandYoung - "Currently refusing games from players with a rating lower than 1500"

    What is this fellow, an elitist?

    A higher score is no garuantee of a boring game or of sure victory dude.
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    12 Oct '06 15:051 edit
    Originally posted by jaywill
    I noticed that AThousandYoung - [b]"Currently refusing games from players with a rating lower than 1500"

    What is this fellow, an elitist?

    A higher score is no garuantee of a boring game or of sure victory dude.[/b]
    Ah but you didn't consider that it would help prevent his rating from skyplummeting by losing to a far lower rated player (for whatever reason) whilst increasing the likelyhood that he should have a game that is equivalent to or greater than his strength
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    12 Oct '06 15:11
    Originally posted by Agerg
    Ah but you didn't consider that it would help prevent his rating from skyplummeting by losing to a far lower rated player (for whatever reason) whilst increasing the likelyhood that he should have a game that is equivalent to or greater than his strength
    Yea, you're right. Besides I better be careful. He'll whip my head at chess in the name of secularism!
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    12 Oct '06 17:43
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    "One of the clearest trends I observed is the inverse correlation between religiosity and verbal IQ (the GSS includes a verbal IQ test). In other words, people who are more religious tend to be less intelligent. "

    http://www.halfsigma.com/2006/06/religious_peopl.html
    ONe of them days I too hope to bee as enlightened as A1000young just as soon as I renounce all them silly Biblie beleefs of mine so that I can fineally see the darkness....er...um....light.

    Oh hail a1000Young!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Praase be to yourins name.
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    12 Oct '06 19:161 edit
    Originally posted by jaywill
    I noticed that AThousandYoung - [b]"Currently refusing games from players with a rating lower than 1500"

    What is this fellow, an elitist?

    A higher score is no garuantee of a boring game or of sure victory dude.[/b]
    I used to be higher rated. I'll relax that requirement a bit. However, I am not interested in playing a 1048 who won't even PM me first.
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    12 Oct '06 19:21
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I used to be higher rated. I'll relax that requirement a bit. However, I am not interested in playing a 1048 who won't even PM me first.
    I think you offended some people here, ATY. Perhaps you should explain the meaning of "correlation" to them so that these poor believers quit offering up inconsequential anecdotes.
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    12 Oct '06 19:29
    Originally posted by telerion
    I think you offended some people here, ATY. Perhaps you should explain the meaning of "correlation" to them so that these poor believers quit offering up inconsequential anecdotes.
    Nah. I don't care enough. Feel free!
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    12 Oct '06 19:311 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    I used to be higher rated. I'll relax that requirement a bit. However, I am not interested in playing a 1048 who won't even PM me first.
    No sweat off my back.
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    12 Oct '06 19:34
    However,

    FAITH HOPE LOVE's average rating is 1822.

    Freethinker's Clan's average rating is 1417.
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