28 Jun '17 20:13>1 edit
In this thread I would like to suggest that the book of Revelation specifically applies first and foremost to the 7 churches. Whether 7 is literal or not is irrelevant at this point. Seven is used as a measure of completeness so it suggest a message to all Christian Saints. Of course anyone can read it and understand it if they wish.
When the Bible states that Paul is addressing Christian Saints at say the church of Corinth, you can apply it to Christians but you cannot correctly apply all of what he says to the rest of the world. It is common to hear Christians use these teachings to forecast good things for Christians but bad things for nonChristians. The is a dishonest way of interpreting these writings. Paul writes specifically to the churches to which he addresses. Of course there are cases where Pauls statements can have universal applicability .
Universal applicability can describe the teachings of Jesus Christ. But again there is no hard and fast rule. Common sense should prevail. eg woes to Pharisees are for the Pharisees, although lessons should be learned from them.
In another thread I posted this. I would be interested in hearing comments on this.
The book of Revelation was written specifically for the 7 churches. These churches all comprise Christian Saints. Some of these saints were good, some lukewarn and some evil. Over 2 chapters was spent with warning these Christians about their good works and their righteousness. It appeared that they were going astray, and some were quite likely thinking that they would get eternal life even though their works were evil [like some Christians of today].
The Bible is clear of this fact pertaining to Christians that the Christian who accepts Christ and then reverts to a life of sin is a worse position than if he did not know of Christ in the first place. Therefore an atheist or non Christian is bettor off in the day of judgment than a sinful Christian.
If there is indeed a lake of fire with real eternal torment then it will be evil Christians who will be cast into that place, not non Christians who were given nothing .. no gifts, no Holy Spirit, no ability,l no Gods Spirit ,,, nothing. It is the Christians who are guilty and it is to these Christians that the warning of Revelation 20 applies... ie names not found in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire.
When the Bible states that Paul is addressing Christian Saints at say the church of Corinth, you can apply it to Christians but you cannot correctly apply all of what he says to the rest of the world. It is common to hear Christians use these teachings to forecast good things for Christians but bad things for nonChristians. The is a dishonest way of interpreting these writings. Paul writes specifically to the churches to which he addresses. Of course there are cases where Pauls statements can have universal applicability .
Universal applicability can describe the teachings of Jesus Christ. But again there is no hard and fast rule. Common sense should prevail. eg woes to Pharisees are for the Pharisees, although lessons should be learned from them.
In another thread I posted this. I would be interested in hearing comments on this.
The book of Revelation was written specifically for the 7 churches. These churches all comprise Christian Saints. Some of these saints were good, some lukewarn and some evil. Over 2 chapters was spent with warning these Christians about their good works and their righteousness. It appeared that they were going astray, and some were quite likely thinking that they would get eternal life even though their works were evil [like some Christians of today].
The Bible is clear of this fact pertaining to Christians that the Christian who accepts Christ and then reverts to a life of sin is a worse position than if he did not know of Christ in the first place. Therefore an atheist or non Christian is bettor off in the day of judgment than a sinful Christian.
If there is indeed a lake of fire with real eternal torment then it will be evil Christians who will be cast into that place, not non Christians who were given nothing .. no gifts, no Holy Spirit, no ability,l no Gods Spirit ,,, nothing. It is the Christians who are guilty and it is to these Christians that the warning of Revelation 20 applies... ie names not found in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire.