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    Isis is not the caliphate. To say it is, is to legitimize Isis. Does any reading of the Bible legitimize Isis? If so, it delegitimizes the other Abrahamic religions.

    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/07/02/3455885/why-isiss-claim-to-a-new-caliphate-is-kind-of-ridiculous-but-also-kind-of-scary/
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    1. Daniel 7:3-7 ; Revelation 13:2 The beast to rise from lands once ruled by the Babylonian, Medio-Persian, Greecian Empires.

    Today these lands are ruled by Islamic nations.

    2. Revelation 19:20, 20:19 The Beast associated with the "False Prophet".

    Islam founded by the false prophet Muhammad.

    3. Revelation 20:4 The beast beheads the saints.

    Islamic Sharia Law uses beheading against all infidels.
    (Quran Surah 47.4 When you encounter infidels, strike off their heads.)

    4. (1 John 2:22-23) Antichrist Beast rejects that God has a Son.

    Islam rejects Jesus as the Son of God.

    5. Revelation 13:5-6 The Anctichrist Beast speaks great blasphemies against God.

    The Shahada slogan of Islam states "There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet."
    (This is blasphemy because Yahweh God and His Son Yahshua is replaced by the pagan moon god Allah and the false prophet Muhammad.)

    6. Daniel 11:38 the Antichrist Beast worships a god of fortresses (war).

    Qurah Surah 9.5 ...fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them and lie in wait and ambush them using every strategem of war. (Islam pretends to be a religion of peace, but it destroys with war.)

    7. Daniel 11:37 The Antichrist Beast has no regard for the desire(s) of women.

    In strict Islamic societies men rule over women and any desire(s) of women are regarded less that the desires of their animals. Women are routinely beaten, raped, and abused, then denied equal justice.

    8. Daniel 7:25 The Antichrist beast intends to change established times and laws.

    The goal of Islamic extremists is to establish Sharia Law and the Islamic calendar and feasts worldwide.
    http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html
    http://catholic-resources.org/Courses/Islam-Calendar.htm
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    Daniel’s fourth kingdom was described as destroying and encompassing the three empires before it, but the Romans were only in Babylon for a few months and never conquered Persia. Daniel’s fourth kingdom cannot be the Roman Empire.

    Greece was split into four kingdoms upon the death of Alexander the Great. They were Macedonia, Asia Minor, Syria and Egypt [Dan 8:8, 8:22; 7:6]. Two of the kingdoms located in the Middle-East went on to war with one another for almost 200 years. These were the kings of the north and south [Dan 11:1-35]. The king of the South is Ptolemy and his progeny. The king of the North is Seleucid and his progeny.
    "Then there will be a fourth kingdom as strong as iron; inasmuch as iron crushes and shatters all things, so, like iron that breaks in pieces, it will crush and break all these in pieces.

    In that you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it will be a divided kingdom; but it will have in it the toughness of iron, inasmuch as you saw the iron mixed with common clay. As the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of pottery, so some of the kingdom will be strong and part of it will be brittle.

    And in that you saw the iron mixed with common clay, they will combine with one another in the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, even as iron does not combine with pottery.

    In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever."

    Daniel 2:40-44 NASB

    The 4th beast is described as having ten horns.
    “After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns."

    Daniel 7:7 NASB


    Thus he said: "The fourth beast will be a fourth kingdom on the earth, which will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth and tread it down and crush it. As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings."

    Daniel 7:23-24 NASB


    And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names. And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority. I saw one of his heads as if it had been slain, and his fatal wound was healed. And the whole earth was amazed and followed after the beast;

    Revelation 13:1-3 NASB


    “Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. “The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.

    Revelation 17:9-11 NASB


    The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour.

    Revelation 17:12 NASB


    The Islamic Caliphate of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Rome also conquered the Babylonian, Persian, and Grecian Empires. It also contained the nations which the Holy Bible describes as Israel’s endtime enemies. This Kingdom fits the fourth Beast kingdom of Daniel and the seventh Beast kingdom of Revelation which has a deadly wound and then returns as the eighth beast that we can refer to as the Revived Islamic Caliphate or Islamic State.

    The 8th king, the Antichrist, will be ruler of the revived kingdom after he steps up to claim it [Dan 7:7-8, 7:23-24].

    John writes in Revelation 17:8 that the beast, or the Antichrist, was and is not now.
    “The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction. And those who dwell on the earth, whose name has not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will wonder when they see the beast, that he was and is not and will come."

    Revelation 17:8 NASB


    "The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction."

    Revelation 17:11 NASB

    The kingdom in power at the time of John’s writing was Rome. Since John tells us the beast was and is not, we can remove Rome from the list. John is saying that the revived kingdom will not be Rome. It will be from the previous five – a kingdom that was. This would eliminate both the United States and the Vatican. Neither of these existed before Rome, which is a prerequisite for the final kingdom.

    Scripture’s use of “Babylon” located in a desert "wilderness" is describing the final beast kingdom's geographic location. Look at the location that the Islamic State is arising from.

    Walid Shoebat has pointed out that there is no nations listed in the Holy Bible that the Lord does battle against in Old Testament prophecy that is not now Muslim.
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Daniel’s fourth kingdom was described as destroying and encompassing the three empires before it, but the Romans were only in Babylon for a few months and never conquered Persia. Daniel’s fourth kingdom cannot be the Roman Empire.

    Greece was split into four kingdoms upon the death of Alexander the Great. They were Macedonia, Asia Minor, Syria and Egypt [ ...[text shortened]... e Holy Bible that the Lord does battle against in Old Testament prophecy that is not now Muslim.
    It's funny your so-called lord doesn't just go POOF and these alleged enemies of your alleged god disappear in a puff of smoke.

    That would go against the man made plot though, right? The part where humans are SO high up on the evolutionary scale that we must be close to this god of yours and this god thinks we can do just about as good a job as it can. I wonder why this god doesn't take into account the fact that if it's human against human there would be way more deaths because ancient armies weren't that far apart in terms of military technology, spears, swords, shields, horses and so forth. So two trained armies would leave say half dead on both sides or 80 percent dead on the losing side and only 60% dead on the winning side. That would add up to more dead than if your sleazy ass god just did it himself. You have a lazy god who would rather delegate the nasty war work to humans so it can get a kick out of all the extra dead that would not have happened if this lazy god did it himself.

    Nice god you have there.
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    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It's funny your so-called lord doesn't just go POOF and these alleged enemies of your alleged god disappear in a puff of smoke.

    That would go against the man made plot though, right? The part where humans are SO high up on the evolutionary scale that we must be close to this god of yours and this god thinks we can do just about as good a job as it can. ...[text shortened]... a dead that would not have happened if this lazy god did it himself.

    Nice god you have there.
    I never said I had a nice god. I said I have a just and loving God.

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    PRAISE THE LORD !!!
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    Daniel 7:19 relates that the fourth empire is "different from all the rest." Furthermore, it will "crush and shatter" all previous kingdoms (Daniel 2:40). The Islamic Caliphate came to dominate all of the land contained within all three of these previous empires. The Roman Empire doesn't even come close to fulfilling this description.

    The only empire that fulfills the requirements of Daniel's vision, is the Islamic Empire founded by Muhammad's successor Abu Bakr who invaded the Persian Empire and conquered the area of Babylonia in 637 A.D. He became the empire's first Caliph.

    The fourth kingdom is represented by legs of iron in the metallic statue. The iron kingdom is divided into feet of iron and clay representing a "divided kingdom." The fourth kingdom, then, would be an unstable one that would become "divided," and this imagery aptly describes what happened to the Islamic Empire after the Muslim invasion of 637 A.D. It was divided into two religious or ideological factions -- namely Sunni and Shia.

    The Arabs from 634-644 A.D., coming from their headquarters at Mecca, south of Palestine, conquered some 36,000 cities or strongholds, destroyed some 4,000 Christian churches, and erected some 1,400 Moslem mosques. They established an Empire that reached from Persia, through North Africa into Spain and the south of France. They sacked Rome, the seat of the Papacy, and even fought the Papal forces at sea. They besieged Constantinople, the capital of Byzantium, on two occasions in 674-678 A.D., and 717-718 A.D. But then they became divided into the Sunni and Shi'a sects represented by the two legs of Daniel's statue.

    "The Midrash comments that these ten horns symbolize ten kings of the Fourth Kingdom, and the eleventh horn is the final king whom Israel will confront. All these kings, the Midrash stresses, are to be DESCENDANTS OF ESAU. The implication is that the king and initiator of the campaign against Israel will be from Esau-Edom" (ArtScroll Tanach series, Brooklyn, NY: Menorah Publications, 1989, p. 582).

    In Psalm 83 we find the ONLY mentioned confederacy of ten kingdoms or nations in the entirety of the Bible --
    They have said, "Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation, That the name of Israel be remembered no more." For they have conspired together with one mind; Against You they make a covenant: The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, Moab and the Hagrites; Gebal and Ammon and Amalek, Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre; Assyria also has joined with them; They have become a help to the children of Lot. Selah. (Psalm 83:4-8 NASB).

    The territories occupied by the nations/tribes named in Psalm 83 are roughly as follows: Edom in modern Jordan: Ishmaelites in modern Saudi Arabia; Moab in modern Jordan; Hagrites -- the territory bordering modern Jordan and Saudi Arabia; Gebal -- probably modern Golan Heights and nearby in Syria; Ammon in modern Jordan; Amalek in the modern Sinai peninsula and the Negev; Philistia -- modern Gaza Strip, part of the Palestinian authority; Tyre in modern Lebanon; Assyria -- modern Syria, Iran, and Iraq.

    Some of the oldest Christian communities in the world are subject to relentless attack and teeter on the brink of extinction at the hands of the "Religion of Peace": Palestinian Christians in Gaza and the West Bank; Assyrian, Syriac and Chaldean Christians in Iraq; Coptic Christians in Egypt; Evangelical and Orthodox Christians in Eastern Ethiopia and Eritrea; Armenian Orthodox Christians in Turkey; and Maronite Christians in Lebanon.

    In Aramaic, the word for "mixed" is simply 'arab. In the ancient Middle East, the Arabs were considered mixed desert peoples. Because the descendants of Ishmael and Esau had so intermarried among the various desert pagan tribes, they had essentially become known collectively as 'the mixed ones.' The first reference to the Eastern desert peoples (Ammonites and Moabites) as the 'mixed ones' is found in Nehemiah 13:1-3.
    Nehemiah 13:3
    Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the mixed multitude.

    The Jihad and terrorism from the Shia and Sunni Islam conflict could be a fulfillment of the ancient prophecy declared over Ishmael, the father of the Arab peoples, who would forever be in conflict with other men and even his own brothers:
    Genesis 16:12
    He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

    Also, the fact that Shia Muslims, who comprise about 15% of all Muslims, pray with their foreheads pressed against a piece of clay could be an indication of the weaker part of the iron/clay mixture.

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    Arab spring reviving ISIS’ Islamic Caliphate

    The chaos triggered by President Obama's Middle East 'Arab Spring' campaign, that began in his speech in Cairo, 2009.


    ISIS is among the fastest-growing and richest terrorist groups of all time. After initially funding its efforts with extortion, smuggling and private donations, it literally struck gold last June, when it seized millions of funds from the Mosul central bank. ISIS is already earning huge sums from captured oil fields, selling the resources on the black market.

    In fact, the Islamic State has recently introduced its own currency – coins made of gold, silver and copper that avoid dependence on the international monetary system. Its weapons arsenal has grown from simple guns to sophisticated war fighting systems taken from the US hardware supplied to the Iraqi army.

    Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, as the leader of the new caliphate, or Islamic state, called on Muslims everywhere, not just those in area under the organization’s control, but all over the world, to swear loyalty to him. Few weeks later, on 13 of November 2014, ISIS officially announced that groups from Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Sinai, Algeria and Libya have joined the state, with smaller Islamic groups in Iran (Khurasan), Chechenia and the Caucasus, Indonesia, Philippines and Nigeria joining as followers of the new Caliphate.

    The fate of the new Middle East now enfolding will depend on a radical change of mind in the White House to enter its global responsibilities into the Middle East turmoil before it will be too late.

    http://defense-update.com/20141123_islamic_caliphate.html
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    Glenn Beck: The 12th Imam - The Antichrist

    Published on Sep 5, 2014

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    The Mahdi

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    The Mahdi- The Islamic Messiah is the ANTICHRIST of the BIBLE

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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b]Arab spring reviving ISIS’ Islamic Caliphate

    The chaos triggered by President Obama's Middle East 'Arab Spring' campaign, that began in his speech in Cairo, 2009.


    ISIS is among the fastest-growing and richest terrorist groups of all time. After initially funding its efforts with extortion, smuggling and private donations, it literally struck gol ...[text shortened]... turmoil before it will be too late.

    http://defense-update.com/20141123_islamic_caliphate.html[/b]
    And all made possible by your hero Bush Jr, invading Iraq. Besides spending a few trillion dollars in the process. You get what you pay for.
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    Originally posted by sonhouse
    And all made possible by your hero Bush Jr, invading Iraq. Besides spending a few trillion dollars in the process. You get what you pay for.
    Actually, it is your hero Obama that made it possible by removing U.S. troups from Iraq too early. He did it on purpose because he is Muslim. We still have U.S. troups in Germany after all these years since WWII, why? Obama was not anxious to bring those troups home. 😏
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    In Isaiah 21:9, Prophet Isaiah also describes the fall of Babylon in the same words: “Babylon is fallen is fallen” (Revelation 14:8 and 18:2). Prophet Isaiah starts with the proclamation of Babylon as the burden of the desert of the sea in Isaiah 21:1 which culminates with fall of Babylon in Isaiah 21:9.
    The burden of the desert of the sea. As whirlwinds in the south pass through; so it cometh from the desert, from a terrible land. A grievous vision is declared unto me; the treacherous dealer dealeth treacherously, and the spoiler spoileth. Go up, O Elam: besiege, O Media; all the sighing thereof have I made to cease.

    Therefore are my loins filled with pain: pangs have taken hold upon me, as the pangs of a woman that travaileth: I was bowed down at the hearing of it; I was dismayed at the seeing of it. My heart panted, fearfulness affrighted me: the night of my pleasure hath he turned into fear unto me. Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise, ye princes, and anoint the shield.

    For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Go, set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth.

    And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed:

    And he cried, A lion: My lord, I stand continually upon the watchtower in the daytime, and I am set in my ward whole nights:

    And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground. (Isaiah 21:1-9 KJV)

    Today it is Arabia that is called “The Desert of the Sea”!

    The woman in Revelation 17 has a golden cup in her hand “full of abomination and the filthiness of her fornication” (Revelation 17:4).

    Using proceeds from oil sales, Saudi Arabia builds mosques and spreads Islam in Western countries. The primary export of Saudis is Islam which is a false religion. False religion of Islam is the abomination which fills the golden cup of the woman in Revelation 17. Addicted to oil Western governments allow Saudi Arabia to spread false religion in their countries and by doing so they commit “fornication” with this woman riding the beast (Revelation 18:3).
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