1. Subscribersonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    slatington, pa, usa
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    21 Aug '18 14:562 edits
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Find out what he really cares about and you'll discover that others' preferences DO concern him.

    Just observe his talk to see here or elsewhere what ethical issues he holds as really important.

    Apparently he had some concern about Flat Earthers and distrust of science:

    A recent survey found that just 66 percent of young adults aged
    18 ...[text shortened]... ?


    https://www.chessatwork.com/forum/debates/flat-earth-believers.177865#post_3921379
    So 2/3 of those kids believe Earth is round, only 1/3 say otherwise. This is a big deal why?

    Is this a Guiliani 'Truth isn't truth' argument?

    And, what does this have to do with cannibalism?
  2. Germany
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    21 Aug '18 17:04
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Indeed. If morality is subjective then there is no morality. Many atheists on the one hand will say there are "universal moral principles" we should all follow... no killing, no hurting others, etc., but on the other hand claim they (atheists) have no written code of ethics. But subjective morality causes a contradiction with at least someone, on any " ...[text shortened]... e neighborhood? The city? The state? Country? World? And we're right back where we started.
    There is a large variety of ethical theories that do not make explicit reference to any organized religion, for example various consequentialist schools of thought, and natural rights theories. Atheism is not a moral code, it is just the absence of belief in the supernatural.
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