I would respectfully put it to you that in your time of helplessness
and intense need you received help from another human being
or organization. They helped you and put you back on the right track.
And you would be very wrong.
Now I want you to listen to me. No one, but no one can do an inside work like Jesus Christ.
Jesus can get down deeper and more intimately inside a man's heart and life than any organization of natural person can go.
In the privacy of one's aloneness with God, one can meet this living Savior.
You were not helped by any supernatural being or power.
That is your assumption and your expectation. You desire that it be so.
This is what you need that God could be dismissed.
You are welcomed to thing that way if you wish. Run with it.
I remember what it was to be a skeptical agnostic unbeliever. And I know what it is to meet the available Lord and Savior Jesus in the shadows of life.
You cannot advize me as to what happened to me.
You weren't there.
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" (1 Cor. 6:17)
I also remember the foolish confidence of thinking that I REALLY knew what people who believed in Christ were doing. I thought they were not clear, but I was clear.
Then Christ manifested Himself in my being.
Having said that I would add that learning to discrimiate presumption from real faith is a life long lesson. I do not believe in a supersitious way. We do learn to discern spiritual reality from obsession.
After all you are born to mature. And you are born again ALSO to grow and mature spiritually.
One other thing. That others may have helped lead one to Jesus does not make Jesus not legitimate. But rather than discribe this as oganizational I would discribe it as "organic."
Sure, others can be used by the Holy Spirit to lead someone to meet Christ.
None of these organized religions have the answer to mans questions.
Since I have mentioned Christ as a Person repeatedly, I both agree. But I have been speaking of Christ the living and available Person.
You mentioned "Christianity." I never mentioned "anity." I only mentioned Christ.
You were helped by family or friends or an organization which put your
train back on the rails and once you got moving again you were able
to help yourself. That is the true measure of a man.
I was not "helped" from all my problems. I was helped to see that myself was the main problem apart from God.
You need to convince yourself that only psychology exists, only organized religion exists, only culture exists. You need that to confirm your kind of humanism.
You are speaking out of your wishful thinking.
I'll tell you what. If some day the cold hard truth of Jesus not being raised from the dead hits me like a ton of bricks, I'll let you know.
But it hasn't happened yet. And there have been many a times when it could have. I have something that the world cannot give. And the world cannot take it away.
Yes we all need help from time to time. It's good when someone
gives you a leg up. But in the end it's down to you.
It is not longer a matter of needing help primarily. It is a matter of why I am here and what is the eternal purpose of God.
If I drop Christ and take up your philosophy of life, I fear that I'll be left with no meaning to my life at all. You have no answers to the really big questions of human life.
What do you have that is better than the Son of God?
Put it out there. This is a Spirituality Forum.
What do you have ??
I fear you are clueless but skeptical. I do not assume people have wisdom simply because they can be skeptical about the Bible.
Only you can lead your life. No one else can do it for you.
I want to be one with Christ.
What do you have that is better for me to be one with ?
What do you offer that is superior to the Son of God, Jesus ?
It is an unspeakable enjoyment that we can live in union with Jesus.
Look at His life. And He lived in oneness with the Father.
As He lived by the Father we can live through Him.
"As the living Father sent Me and I live because of the Father, so he who eat Me shall also live because of Me." (John 6:57)
I am more impressed with Jesus living through the Father and us living through Christ in the same way.
If I had 10 lives to live on earth, I would not want to waste ONE of them living apart from Jesus Christ.
The only person you can truly rely on 100% is you.
I rely on Christ in me. I rely on me living in Christ on a blended way of union.
This fulfills God's eternal purpose. And without me living in God's eternal purpose human life is vain.
Not any fantasy or religion or superstitious supernatural fairy tale.
What do you have that is superior to Christ the Son of God ?
I don't care how much you can shout fairy tale and religion.
If I drop Christ and take up your life's philosophy what do you offer me ?
Not a whole - heckava- helleva lot.
Point me to your posts on this forum where you give definite answers to the biggest questions of human life and meaning. What's the name of the thread. Let me see what you say compared to what Jesus says.