Shame on the Christians

Originally posted by josephw
You're obviously a victim of relativism.

Truth is Truth. A lie is a lie.

Yes, some things are true, regardless of whether anyone believes them, but determining the truth is not always a simple matter.

It is not relativism to admit it.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Yes, some things are true, regardless of whether anyone believes them, but determining the truth is not always a simple matter.

It is not relativism to admit it.

If determining the truth was left up to us we would be in the dark don't you think?

What if God told you the truth? Would you find it hard to believe the truth then?

Originally posted by josephw
If determining the truth was left up to us we would be in the dark don't you think?

What if God told you the truth? Would you find it hard to believe the truth then?

It IS left up to us. We ARE in the dark on many issues. Occasionally we see glimmers of light - that's all.

It depends on what truth was told. Some things are easier to believe than others.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
It IS left up to us. We ARE in the dark on many issues. Occasionally we see glimmers of light - that's all.

It depends on what truth was told. Some things are easier to believe than others.

Try this one: "In the beginning God created..."

Can you believe that? If not you're in deep trouble.

Originally posted by josephw
Try this one: "In the beginning God created..."

Can you believe that? If not you're in deep trouble.

What sort of trouble are we in if we don't believe it?

Are we grounded? Or is it some sort of corporal punishment?

Originally posted by josephw
Try this one: "In the beginning God created..."

Can you believe that? If not you're in deep trouble.

So tell me something I don't already know. I'm sure all atheists are 'in trouble' in your eyes for not believing as you do. 🙄

Originally posted by Proper Knob
What sort of trouble are we in if we don't believe it?

Are we grounded? Or is it some sort of corporal punishment?

It's up to you.

Originally posted by josephw
It's up to you.

Last I checked, I could not decide to believe anything. But I'll let you know if it changes. 😛

Originally posted by SwissGambit
So tell me something I don't already know. I'm sure all atheists are 'in trouble' in your eyes for not believing as you do. 🙄

Not just atheists.

Originally posted by josephw
It's up to you.

Why is it up to me?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Why is it up to me?

Is someone forcing you to believe?

Originally posted by josephw
If you don't believe in God you are perfectly immature. Spiritually dead.

What exactly is "Spiritually dead"?

Originally posted by josephw
In this forum, from what I've been reading in it, atheists are more coherent than the so-called Christians, (myself excluded of course); (not the topic of this thread).

The atheists are at least consistent in their beliefs, whereas the "Christians" are disunited and disjointed.

It's no wonder the atheist is in unbelief. I can't believe what I hear the ...[text shortened]... forum can ever be anything other than an exercise in futility.

Shame on the Christians.

Why are you just focusing on the Christians in this forum? Surely all the different branches/factions of Christianity around the world have the same effect on Atheists. You are absolutely right. How can anyone believe in God when there are as many "Gods" or interpretations of "God" as there are religious people? Every religious person has their own interpretation of God no matter what their religion or branch of it or individual understanding of the language used in the religious texts or spoken teachings. You are really onto a fundamental Atheist argument here. You are almost saved!

Please don't ruin your excellent thread by now implying that your own interpretation just happens to be the "truth". Please!!

Originally posted by josephw
In this forum, from what I've been reading in it, atheists are more coherent than the so-called Christians, (myself excluded of course); (not the topic of this thread).

The atheists are at least consistent in their beliefs, whereas the "Christians" are disunited and disjointed.

It's no wonder the atheist is in unbelief. I can't believe what I hear the ...[text shortened]... forum can ever be anything other than an exercise in futility.

Shame on the Christians.

you mean they cannot agree with you on what god is and who he is

"atheists are more coherent than the so-called Christians, (myself excluded of course)"
i would like to disagree with this statement. guess which part of it i am disagreeing with!