Originally posted by SwissGambit Yes, some things are true, regardless of whether anyone believes them, but determining the truth is not always a simple matter.
It is not relativism to admit it.
If determining the truth was left up to us we would be in the dark don't you think?
What if God told you the truth? Would you find it hard to believe the truth then?
Originally posted by SwissGambit So tell me something I don't already know. I'm sure all atheists are 'in trouble' in your eyes for not believing as you do. 🙄
Originally posted by josephw In this forum, from what I've been reading in it, atheists are more coherent than the so-called Christians, (myself excluded of course); (not the topic of this thread).
The atheists are at least consistent in their beliefs, whereas the "Christians" are disunited and disjointed.
It's no wonder the atheist is in unbelief. I can't believe what I hear the ...[text shortened]... forum can ever be anything other than an exercise in futility.
Shame on the Christians.
Why are you just focusing on the Christians in this forum? Surely all the different branches/factions of Christianity around the world have the same effect on Atheists. You are absolutely right. How can anyone believe in God when there are as many "Gods" or interpretations of "God" as there are religious people? Every religious person has their own interpretation of God no matter what their religion or branch of it or individual understanding of the language used in the religious texts or spoken teachings. You are really onto a fundamental Atheist argument here. You are almost saved!
Please don't ruin your excellent thread by now implying that your own interpretation just happens to be the "truth". Please!!
Originally posted by josephw Originally posted by divegeester
[b]In regards to this forum, atheists believe one thing "there is no god".
Christians believe lots of things relating to their belief in god and therefore there is more to disagree about.
Your point is moot.
Actually, you made my point. Shame on the Christians for giving atheists reason not to believe.
...[text shortened]... the non believer believe the Christians when the Christians can't agree on what they believe?[/b]
I've never met a Christian I agree with, but I don't have any problem believing.
If 'someone' thinks you are an idiot for what you believe and 100 other people say well I believe what he believes - do you think 'someone' will change his opinion?
Originally posted by josephw In this forum, from what I've been reading in it, atheists are more coherent than the so-called Christians, (myself excluded of course); (not the topic of this thread).
The atheists are at least consistent in their beliefs, whereas the "Christians" are disunited and disjointed.
It's no wonder the atheist is in unbelief. I can't believe what I hear the ...[text shortened]... forum can ever be anything other than an exercise in futility.
Shame on the Christians.
you mean they cannot agree with you on what god is and who he is
"atheists are more coherent than the so-called Christians, (myself excluded of course)"
i would like to disagree with this statement. guess which part of it i am disagreeing with!