1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    20 Nov '13 05:57
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    you will love this. many yecs believe that there weren't zebras, horses, donkeys, etc, just the general kind "horse like kind". after the flood, each kind diversified into species.

    almost like evolution. but there is no such thing as evolution of course.
    We know that all varieties of dogs did not exist at creation. We know that many of these varieties came about through selective breeding by man. Darwin believed that varieties of finches came about through natural selective beeding without the help of man.

    Zebras look like horses, so some believe that all horse like animals are a variety of the same kind. However, we are not sure that the zebra is the same kind as a horse. But if it is, then that would mean that not every variety of these kind of animals would need to be on the ark, just as not every variety of finches must be on the ark.

    We believe that natural selective breeding can take place just like man-made selective breeding. Therefore, there would be no need for all the varieties (species) of every kind of animals that breath air to be placed on the ark. This does not mean we think one kind of animal evolved into another kind. It only means that one kind of animal can reproduce varieties (species) within the same kind.

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    20 Nov '13 10:22
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Why aren't there dinosaurs now if they were all taken on the Ark? Why aren't there dinosaur bones only a few thousand years old?
    If the dinosaur bones you are dating as millions of years old were actually
    thousands of years old, you'd never know it.
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    20 Nov '13 11:27
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    If the dinosaur bones you are dating as millions of years old were actually
    thousands of years old, you'd never know it.
    Kelly
    Actually, we would since bones a few thousand years old leaves a distinct C14 signature whereas that dating technique poops out after about 50K years. Most scientists are ok with the idea that fossil dating techniques are pretty accurate, within the windows of error for each technique.

    The clincher is how they logically tie together, several deep past techniques converge on a common date so several technologies say the same age which adds real credence to the assessment of age.
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    20 Nov '13 11:33
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Actually, we would since bones a few thousand years old leaves a distinct C14 signature whereas that dating technique poops out after about 50K years. Most scientists are ok with the idea that fossil dating techniques are pretty accurate, within the windows of error for each technique.

    The clincher is how they logically tie together, several deep past t ...[text shortened]... date so several technologies say the same age which adds real credence to the assessment of age.
    You prove my point.
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    20 Nov '13 13:27
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    You prove my point.
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    Your POINT? You think there are dinosaur bones that would register C14?
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    20 Nov '13 13:51
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Your POINT? You think there are dinosaur bones that would register C14?
    I said if they were you'd never know it.
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    20 Nov '13 16:13
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I said if they were you'd never know it.
    Kelly
    Of course we know, they are too old for C14, a thousand times too old.
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    21 Nov '13 06:26
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Of course we know, they are too old for C14, a thousand times too old.
    ERRORS ARE FEARED IN CARBON DATING By MALCOLM W. BROWNE
    Published: May 31, 1990 The New York Times

    Since 1947, scientists have reckoned the ages of many old objects by measuring the amounts of radioactive carbon they contain. New research shows, however, that some estimates based on carbon may have erred by thousands of years.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/31/us/errors-are-feared-in-carbon-dating.html

    The accuracy of carbon-14 dating relies on faulty assumptions, and is subject to human bias.

    http://contenderministries.org/evolution/carbon14.php

    Doesn't Carbon 14 Dating Disprove the BIble?

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    21 Nov '13 11:38
    Carbon Dating Flaws Explained

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    21 Nov '13 11:49
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    ERRORS ARE FEARED IN CARBON DATING By MALCOLM W. BROWNE
    Published: May 31, 1990 The New York Times

    Since 1947, scientists have reckoned the ages of many old objects by measuring the amounts of radioactive carbon they contain. New research shows, however, that some estimates based on carbon may have erred by thousands of years.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1 ...[text shortened]... on 14 Dating Disprove the BIble?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5BBf4EYoNc

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    Errors of thousands of years? OF COURSE THERE ARE ERRORS. He said it, THOUSANDS of years. We are talking about bones a THOUSAND TIMES OLDER YOU DOLT.
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    21 Nov '13 19:12
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Errors of thousands of years? OF COURSE THERE ARE ERRORS. He said it, THOUSANDS of years. We are talking about bones a THOUSAND TIMES OLDER YOU DOLT.
    There may not be any bones older than 5000 years, you numbnuts.

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    21 Nov '13 19:16
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    There may not be any bones older than 5000 years, you numbnuts.

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    And you may live to be 900 but I doubt it very much. Your pathetic anti-science stance doesn't impress anyone here outside of your cadre.
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    21 Nov '13 19:381 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    And you may live to be 900 but I doubt it very much. Your pathetic anti-science stance doesn't impress anyone here outside of your cadre.
    I am pro-God and pro-science, but anti-evilution and anti-science fiction.

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    22 Nov '13 15:55
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I am pro-God and pro-science, but anti-evilution and anti-science fiction.

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    Well call it into the debate then, your god should be able to clear all this up in 5 minutes.
  15. Standard memberRJHinds
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    23 Nov '13 01:52
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Well call it into the debate then, your god should be able to clear all this up in 5 minutes.
    It is already clear to me.

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