Originally posted by SuzianneI am not an atheist, as has been explained to you repeatedly.
OMG, that's never happened before. Not here.
Disconcerting and aggravating, isn't it? As well as insensitive, ignorant and just mean.
Welcome to the atheist M.O. Shoes on the other feet just feel weird, eh?
Can you cite even just one example of me "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time"?
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Originally posted by FMFMaybe you can read my post again, and again, and again, until you realize that 1) I did not call you atheist, and 2) I didn't say anything resembling your quote.
I am not an atheist, as has been explained to you repeatedly.
Can you cite even just one example of me "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time"?
And I say again, stop focusing on unimportant minutia and stick to the topic.
Stop misdirecting.
It's not always about you.
Originally posted by menace71Yep, 50 miles of cycling a day gives an amazing refreshment to the mind, even if your cycling is urban, as mine is, and I have to constantly watch out for idiot drivers.
I've been out cycling on the weekends did 52 miles today that helps 😉 Just remember this is just a silly forum on a chess website ......the real world is not
Manny
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Originally posted by FMFIt is reality that I'm concern with not how you view it.
No I don't. I do not "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time". You are misrepresenting my beliefs.
You flipped flopped, claiming Jesus Christ was real and the Son of God, to
not any more. Granted these were your beliefs, but you held this was true
and changed your mind. That changing of your mind means what you once
believed wasn't real. Yet you continue to claim it was, it was never for you,
it was only some sham you held on to and let go of, but you want points for
the claim nonetheless.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayWhen I was a Christian my Christian beliefs were real to me. I am not a Christian any more. My Christian beliefs were just as real to me then as your Christian beliefs are to you now. For you to claim I am a "liar" because I "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time" is a bit of a low point from you, I reckon. So much for your rather proud suggestion on page one that you have respect for "different honest heart felt beliefs".
It is reality that I'm concern with not how you view it.
You flipped flopped, claiming Jesus Christ was real and the Son of God, to
not any more. Granted these were your beliefs, but you held this was true
and changed your mind. That changing of your mind means what you once
believed wasn't real. Yet you continue to claim it was, it was never for you,
...[text shortened]... y some sham you held on to and let go of, but you want points for
the claim nonetheless.
Kelly
Originally posted by SuzianneWe have a nice trail that starts at the confluence of the Sacramento & American Rivers and goes for 32 miles up to the City of Folsom so no cars (well occasional Ranger vehicle ) also it wraps around the Lake Natoma which is where they held some Olympic trials
Yep, 50 miles of cycling a day gives an amazing refreshment to the mind, even if your cycling is urban, as mine is, and I have to constantly watch out for idiot drivers.
Manny
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FMF: You repeatedly branded me as a liar in a recent conversation for saying that I used to be a Christian. So much for your suggestion that you have respect for "different honest heart felt beliefs". Blimey.KellyJay a few days ago: "I try not to use the word "lie" as freely as some here do. They may honestly believe what they think is true, that does not make them liars, just wrong."
Originally posted by KellyJay
I agree, I did and still feel that way.
KellyJay on page one of this thread: "I believe you [divegeester] and the others just simply have different honest heart felt beliefs that differ from mine, and their lifes walk has them seeing life in differently than I do."
Originally posted by FMFI'm not sure why you bother! I agree they were real to you back then, we
When I was a Christian my Christian beliefs were real to me. I am not a Christian any more. My Christian beliefs were just as real to me then as your Christian beliefs are to you now. For you to claim I am a "liar" because I "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time" is a bit of a low point from you, I reckon. So much for your rather proud suggestion on page one that you have respect for "different honest heart felt beliefs".
are in full agreement! I agree they are not your views now, we are in full
agreement! You however do not grasp the meaning there, admitting when
you held them what you were holding on too wasn't real, even though you
at the time believed it, shows what you had at the time wasn't real, it was
not real because you say so now! If you REALLY had a relationship with
Jesus Christ, you'd never say that! So it wasn't real then, though you
claimed it so. I actually don't know why you keep trying to defend yourself
with me!
My proud suggestion on heart felt beliefs is still true, you've just switched
sides, and refuse to acknowledge what you had before the switch wasn't
the real thing! Those who say they held those beliefs, claim to reject them
and acknowledge what they had at the time before their switch wasn't
real, I'd can accept that! That shows at least they are honest about what
was going on in their lives, you want it both ways. To the point of claiming
everyone who is a Christian is walking a false life, because we are just like
you were!
Kelly