1. Standard membermenace71
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    03 Aug '14 23:05
    I've been out cycling on the weekends did 52 miles today that helps 😉 Just remember this is just a silly forum on a chess website ......the real world is not


    Manny
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    04 Aug '14 01:59
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    OMG, that's never happened before. Not here.




    Disconcerting and aggravating, isn't it? As well as insensitive, ignorant and just mean.

    Welcome to the atheist M.O. Shoes on the other feet just feel weird, eh?
    I am not an atheist, as has been explained to you repeatedly.

    Can you cite even just one example of me "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time"?
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    04 Aug '14 02:11
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Random blurted OP after multiple exhausting replies on repetitive days in the threads I'm involved in.
    Grab a fishing pull, sit back and relax.
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    04 Aug '14 02:171 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    I am not an atheist, as has been explained to you repeatedly.

    Can you cite even just one example of me "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time"?
    Maybe you can read my post again, and again, and again, until you realize that 1) I did not call you atheist, and 2) I didn't say anything resembling your quote.

    And I say again, stop focusing on unimportant minutia and stick to the topic.
    Stop misdirecting.
    It's not always about you.
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    04 Aug '14 02:21
    Originally posted by menace71
    I've been out cycling on the weekends did 52 miles today that helps 😉 Just remember this is just a silly forum on a chess website ......the real world is not


    Manny
    Yep, 50 miles of cycling a day gives an amazing refreshment to the mind, even if your cycling is urban, as mine is, and I have to constantly watch out for idiot drivers.
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    04 Aug '14 02:34
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Maybe you can read my post again, and again, and again, until you realize that 1) I did not call you atheist, and 2) I didn't say anything resembling your quote.
    So you have nothing to offer on the topic I was discussing with KellyJay?
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    04 Aug '14 02:35
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    And I say again, stop focusing on unimportant minutia and stick to the topic.
    Stop misdirecting.
    It's not always about you.
    Just about everyone on this thread is talking about themselves and about each other.
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    04 Aug '14 02:47
    Originally posted by FMF
    Just about everyone on this thread is talking about themselves and about each other.
    I'm not and I take umbrage with you directing that complaint at me.
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    04 Aug '14 02:50
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    I'm not and I take umbrage with you directing that complaint at me.
    Suzianne will be along to admonish you soon , perhaps. 🙂
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    04 Aug '14 02:551 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    No I don't. I do not "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time". You are misrepresenting my beliefs.
    It is reality that I'm concern with not how you view it.
    You flipped flopped, claiming Jesus Christ was real and the Son of God, to
    not any more. Granted these were your beliefs, but you held this was true
    and changed your mind. That changing of your mind means what you once
    believed wasn't real. Yet you continue to claim it was, it was never for you,
    it was only some sham you held on to and let go of, but you want points for
    the claim nonetheless.
    Kelly
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    04 Aug '14 03:06
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    It is reality that I'm concern with not how you view it.
    You flipped flopped, claiming Jesus Christ was real and the Son of God, to
    not any more. Granted these were your beliefs, but you held this was true
    and changed your mind. That changing of your mind means what you once
    believed wasn't real. Yet you continue to claim it was, it was never for you,
    ...[text shortened]... y some sham you held on to and let go of, but you want points for
    the claim nonetheless.
    Kelly
    When I was a Christian my Christian beliefs were real to me. I am not a Christian any more. My Christian beliefs were just as real to me then as your Christian beliefs are to you now. For you to claim I am a "liar" because I "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time" is a bit of a low point from you, I reckon. So much for your rather proud suggestion on page one that you have respect for "different honest heart felt beliefs".
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    04 Aug '14 03:12
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Yep, 50 miles of cycling a day gives an amazing refreshment to the mind, even if your cycling is urban, as mine is, and I have to constantly watch out for idiot drivers.
    We have a nice trail that starts at the confluence of the Sacramento & American Rivers and goes for 32 miles up to the City of Folsom so no cars (well occasional Ranger vehicle ) also it wraps around the Lake Natoma which is where they held some Olympic trials


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    04 Aug '14 03:15
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Yet you continue to claim it was [real], it was never for you, it was only some sham you held on to and let go of, but you want points for the claim nonetheless.
    "Points"?
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    04 Aug '14 03:171 edit
    FMF: You repeatedly branded me as a liar in a recent conversation for saying that I used to be a Christian. So much for your suggestion that you have respect for "different honest heart felt beliefs". Blimey.

    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I agree, I did and still feel that way.
    KellyJay a few days ago: "I try not to use the word "lie" as freely as some here do. They may honestly believe what they think is true, that does not make them liars, just wrong."

    KellyJay on page one of this thread: "I believe you [divegeester] and the others just simply have different honest heart felt beliefs that differ from mine, and their lifes walk has them seeing life in differently than I do."
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    04 Aug '14 07:43
    Originally posted by FMF
    When I was a Christian my Christian beliefs were real to me. I am not a Christian any more. My Christian beliefs were just as real to me then as your Christian beliefs are to you now. For you to claim I am a "liar" because I "hold opposing views as both being true at the same time" is a bit of a low point from you, I reckon. So much for your rather proud suggestion on page one that you have respect for "different honest heart felt beliefs".
    I'm not sure why you bother! I agree they were real to you back then, we
    are in full agreement! I agree they are not your views now, we are in full
    agreement! You however do not grasp the meaning there, admitting when
    you held them what you were holding on too wasn't real, even though you
    at the time believed it, shows what you had at the time wasn't real, it was
    not real because you say so now! If you REALLY had a relationship with
    Jesus Christ, you'd never say that! So it wasn't real then, though you
    claimed it so. I actually don't know why you keep trying to defend yourself
    with me!

    My proud suggestion on heart felt beliefs is still true, you've just switched
    sides, and refuse to acknowledge what you had before the switch wasn't
    the real thing! Those who say they held those beliefs, claim to reject them
    and acknowledge what they had at the time before their switch wasn't
    real, I'd can accept that! That shows at least they are honest about what
    was going on in their lives, you want it both ways. To the point of claiming
    everyone who is a Christian is walking a false life, because we are just like
    you were!
    Kelly
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