03 Apr '07 13:15>
I thought it might be interesting to have a look at Spinoza's view of God as put forth in his Ethics. It's a fairly different view to that which we see here most of the time. I'll make no judgement on it until we've started a discussion, but I thought the easiest thing would be to list his premises and then assess his conclusion. I'm ignoring his axioms on purpose as I think it will cause too much disagreement wihtout enough purposeful discussion, we'll see. In the first part we'll look at how Spinoza considers god as substance in premises 1-15. If that takes off I'll post 16-25 where he considers cause and then 26-36 which is the thesis of determinism.
DEFINITIONS:
i) Cause of itself: that whose essencesinvolves existence or that whose nature cannot be concieved except as existing.
ii) Finite in its own kind: that which cannot be limited by another of the same nature.
iii) Substance: that which is in itself and is concieved through itself
iv) Attribute: that which intellect percieves of substance, as constituting its essence
v) Mode: the affectations of substance
vi) God: An absolutely infinite entity, a substance consisting of of infinite attributes, each expressing infinite eternal essence.
vii) Free: That which exists solely by the necessity of its own nature
viii) Eternity: Existence itself flowing necessarily solely from an eternal thing
PREMISES:
1) Substance is prior to its affectations
2) Two substances which have different attributes have nothing in common with one another
3) Of things which have nothing in common with one another, one cannot be the cause of another
4) Two or more disinct things are distinguished from one another by a difference of attributes , or their affectations
5) There cannot exist 2 substances of the same attribute
6) A substance cannot be produced by another
7) It belongs to the nature of a substance to exist
8) Every substance is necessarily infinite
9) The more reality or being a thing has, the more attributes belong to it
10) Each attribute of a substance must be conceived through itself
11) A substance consisting of infinite attributes each of which expresses infinite essence necessarily exists (God)
12) No attribtue of a substance can truly be conceived from which it follows that substance can be divided
13) An absolutely infinite substance is indivisible
14) Besides god no substance can exist or be conceived
15) Whatever exists exists in god and nothing can exist or be conceived without god
Any takers?
DEFINITIONS:
i) Cause of itself: that whose essencesinvolves existence or that whose nature cannot be concieved except as existing.
ii) Finite in its own kind: that which cannot be limited by another of the same nature.
iii) Substance: that which is in itself and is concieved through itself
iv) Attribute: that which intellect percieves of substance, as constituting its essence
v) Mode: the affectations of substance
vi) God: An absolutely infinite entity, a substance consisting of of infinite attributes, each expressing infinite eternal essence.
vii) Free: That which exists solely by the necessity of its own nature
viii) Eternity: Existence itself flowing necessarily solely from an eternal thing
PREMISES:
1) Substance is prior to its affectations
2) Two substances which have different attributes have nothing in common with one another
3) Of things which have nothing in common with one another, one cannot be the cause of another
4) Two or more disinct things are distinguished from one another by a difference of attributes , or their affectations
5) There cannot exist 2 substances of the same attribute
6) A substance cannot be produced by another
7) It belongs to the nature of a substance to exist
8) Every substance is necessarily infinite
9) The more reality or being a thing has, the more attributes belong to it
10) Each attribute of a substance must be conceived through itself
11) A substance consisting of infinite attributes each of which expresses infinite essence necessarily exists (God)
12) No attribtue of a substance can truly be conceived from which it follows that substance can be divided
13) An absolutely infinite substance is indivisible
14) Besides god no substance can exist or be conceived
15) Whatever exists exists in god and nothing can exist or be conceived without god
Any takers?