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Originally posted by 7ate9Well, Seven-Eight, it is the question that gets right at the divide between theists and non-theists, supernaturalists and non-supernaturalists.
this is a bit hard to explain, but i believe in a spiritual aspect which many could describe as 'God' or 'Satan'. i believe fully in how the bible focuses in on this spiritual and physical from time to time, but to explain what spirituality is may be very hard for some to explain.
i don't know why this hasn't been discussed much in here as this is what thi ...[text shortened]... better or worse.
i don't care what your belief is or none at all.... give it a shot!
Originally posted by 7ate9Sorry 7, but I do not believe that you ever really threw yourself into atheism. If you had, you would never have reconverted to christianity.
i don't mind if you discuss what you want here or there, it's just some of you lot get way over my level of understanding at times. i suggested about having diverting threads so those with opposing views could travel the roads they want further, but that would also be good for differing levels of intellect.
i guess my point is it doesn't matter what you be ...[text shortened]... ht one with many battles it was like hell with all the abuse.
i'm done..... fire away!
Originally posted by 7ate9I'm not exactly sure because it's difficult to follow your style (word salad with stream of consciousness dressing -- that's not a criticism, btw), but I think that's the second time in as many posts that you have asserted that we all have a 'spirituality within', or an inner 'spiritual being' or some such. If you are trying to advance the idea that we all have some sort of locus of inner conscious identity that is immortal or permanent, I would disagree entirely. But that doesn't preclude spirituality.
i don't mind if you discuss what you want here or there, it's just some of you lot get way over my level of understanding at times. i suggested about having diverting threads so those with opposing views could travel the roads they want further, but that would also be good for differing levels of intellect.
i guess my point is it doesn't matter what you be ...[text shortened]... ht one with many battles it was like hell with all the abuse.
i'm done..... fire away!
Originally posted by 7ate9I have several times tried to ask difficult questions about the soul in this forum. I get extremely few biters from amoungst the 'spiritually inclined' and they all seem to have vastly different views on what the soul actually is. They are also usually rather vague about what it is. I find this rather strange considering that most religions foundation is based on the existence of a soul which is immortal in some way (or at least longer lived than the body.) In fact the primary reason given by most followers of religion for following the dictates of thier beliefs is to ensure that thier soul is well taken care of. It seems strange therefore that very few people can give even the most rudimentary description of what the soul is.
i don't know why this hasn't been discussed much in here as this is what this forum is about...... spirituality? our souls are a spiritual being that we all have, 'no matter what'.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI suspect that the concept of soul is useful only when it isn't rationally analyzed. When it is, all sorts of thorny problems quickly emerge. Vagueness is essential to the practice of what many people refer to when they say "spirituality".
I have several times tried to ask difficult questions about the soul in this forum. I get extremely few biters from amoungst the 'spiritually inclined' and they all seem to have vastly different views on what the soul actually is. They are also usually rather vague about what it is. I find this rather strange considering that most religions foundation is ...[text shortened]... e have any genuine motivation for ensuring that our souls are well taken care of after death.
Originally posted by LemonJelloAs an atheist I personally would have issues with all of those definitions, that’s not to mean that there aren't definitions that I might not find applicable, but certainly none of those. Take number 2, which talks about the nature of the soul, this has no meaning to someone who doesn't believe they exist, like wise talking about spirit. (Meaning here some mystical entity as opposed to saying someone has 'spirit'😉
I'm not exactly sure because it's difficult to follow your style (word salad with stream of consciousness dressing -- that's not a criticism, btw), but I think that's the second time in as many posts that you have asserted that we all have a 'spirituality within', or an inner 'spiritual being' or some such. If you are trying to advance the idea that we a 5 (and the first part of 1), since it walks and talks like gibberish to me.