1. Standard memberDasa
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    TEXT 1 Canto 5 Srimad Bhagavatam

    sri-suka uvaca
    tasya mula-dese trimsad-yojana-sahasrantara aste ya vai kala bhagavatas
    tamasi samakhyatananta iti satvatiya drastr-drsyayoh sankarsanam aham ity
    abhimana-laksanam yam sankarsanam ity acaksate.

    SYNONYMS
    sri-sukah uvaca--Sri Sukadeva Gosvami said; tasya--of the planet
    Patala; mula-dese--in the region beneath the base; trimsat--thirty;
    yojana--eight-mile units of measurement; sahasra-antare--at an interval
    of one thousand; aste--remains; ya--which; vai--indeed; kala--an
    expansion of an expansion; bhagavatah--of the Supreme Personality of
    Godhead; tamasi--related to darkness; samakhyata--called; anantah--
    Ananta; iti--thus; satvatiyah--the devotees; drastr-drsyayoh--of matter
    and spirit; sankarsanam--the drawing together; aham--I; iti--thus;
    abhimana--by self-conception; laksanam--symptomized; yam--whom;
    sankarsanam--Sankarsana; iti--thus; acaksate--learned scholars describe.

    TRANSLATION
    Sri Sukadeva Gosvami said to Maharaja Pariksit: My dear King,
    approximately 240,000 miles beneath the planet Patala lives another
    incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is the expansion of
    Lord Visnu known as Lord Ananta or Lord Sankarsana. He is always in the
    transcendental position, but because He is worshiped by Lord Siva, the
    deity of tamo-guna or darkness, He is sometimes called tamasi. Lord
    Ananta is the predominating Deity of the material mode of ignorance as
    well as the false ego of all conditioned souls. When a conditioned living
    being thinks, "I am the enjoyer, and this world is meant to be enjoyed by
    me," this conception of life is dictated to him by Sankarsana. Thus the
    mundane conditioned soul thinks himself the Supreme Lord.

    PURPORT
    There is a class of men akin to Mayavadi philosophers who misinterpret
    the aham brahmasmi and so'ham Vedic mantras to mean, "I am the Supreme
    Brahman" and "I am identical with the Lord." This kind of false
    conception, in which one thinks himself the supreme enjoyer, is a kind of
    illusion. It is described elsewhere in Srimad-Bhagavatam (5.5.8): janasya
    moho 'yam aham mameti. As explained in the above verse, Lord Sankarsana
    is the predominating Deity of this false conception. Krsna confirms this
    in

    Bhagavad-gita (15.15):
    sarvasya caham hrdi sannivisto
    mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca

    "I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance,
    knowledge and forgetfulness." The Lord is situated in everyone's heart as
    Sankarsana, and when a demon thinks himself one with the Supreme Lord,
    the Lord keeps him in that darkness. Although such a demoniac living
    entity is only an insignificant part of the Supreme Lord, he forgets his
    true position and thinks he is the Supreme Lord. Because this
    forgetfulness is created by Sankarsana, He is sometimes called tamasi.
    The name tamasi does not indicate that He has a material body. He is
    always transcendental, but because He is the Supersoul of Lord Siva, who
    must perform tamasic activities, Sankarsana is sometimes called tamasi.
  2. Standard memberAgerg
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    17 Sep '11 19:17
    Dasa, I'm almost certain the majority of people who investigate these threads of yours see nothing more than a big old wall of wtf!? and fail to commence actually reading what you post in the OP.

    Hope this helps 🙂
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    17 Sep '11 23:53
    Originally posted by Agerg
    Dasa, I'm almost certain the majority of people who investigate these threads of yours see nothing more than a big old wall of wtf!? and fail to commence actually reading what you post in the OP.

    Hope this helps 🙂
    it's more like a big old wall of more bs.
    i hope that helps.
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    18 Sep '11 17:02
    Originally posted by Dasa
    TEXT 1 Canto 5 Srimad Bhagavatam

    sri-suka uvaca
    tasya mula-dese trimsad-yojana-sahasrantara aste ya vai kala bhagavatas
    tamasi samakhyatananta iti satvatiya drastr-drsyayoh sankarsanam aham ity
    abhimana-laksanam yam sankarsanam ity acaksate.

    SYNONYMS
    sri-sukah uvaca--Sri Sukadeva Gosvami said; tasya--of the planet
    Patala; mula-dese--in the region ben ...[text shortened]... d Siva, who
    must perform tamasic activities, Sankarsana is sometimes called tamasi.
    Dasa, you should be reading the Holy Bible to learn about the Lord Jesus
    the Christ for He is the way, the truth, and the life. You need to discard
    your prejudices about Christian meat eating for there are also those
    Christians that are vegetarian and will not eat meat. So as a Christian
    you would not be required to eat meat if you feel it is sinful.
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    18 Sep '11 19:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Dasa, you should be reading the Holy Bible to learn about the Lord Jesus
    the Christ for He is the way, the truth, and the life. You need to discard
    your prejudices about Christian meat eating for there are also those
    Christians that are vegetarian and will not eat meat. So as a Christian
    you would not be required to eat meat if you feel it is sinful.
    yeah dasa, go ahead, read Deuteronomy 22:28~29 and tell us what you think.

    http://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=852&q=Deuteronomy+22%3A28&btnG=Google+Search

    lets see what it actually says in the bible, about morality and what is just or sinful.
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    18 Sep '11 19:57
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    yeah dasa, go ahead, read Deuteronomy 22:28~29 and tell us what you think.

    http://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=852&q=Deuteronomy+22%3A28&btnG=Google+Search

    lets see what it actually says in the bible, about morality and what is just or sinful.
    Is this the alleged "rape" you are referring to?
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    18 Sep '11 20:122 edits
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Is this the alleged "rape" you are referring to?
    Look at the very next verse, a wonderful one:

    Deuteronomy 23

    1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

    2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

    Looks like Bobbit is out of luck, damned forever,eh.
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    18 Sep '11 21:36
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Look at the very next verse, a wonderful one:

    Deuteronomy 23

    1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

    2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

    Looks like Bobbit is out of luck, damned forever,eh.
    Wut??
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    18 Sep '11 22:021 edit
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bobbit

    and so any unlucky bastardReveal Hidden Content
    (hence denied into the congregation of "the LORD" at this point for at least 10 generations since: 2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.)
    referred to as bobbit will not enter into the congregation of "the LORD" Reveal Hidden Content
    which assuming never ever at this point introduces some redundancy into the statement that he won\'t get in for at least 10 generations by virtue of being a bastard (an unlucky bastard)


    😵
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