1. SubscriberWajoma
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    25 Jan '06 07:381 edit
    I was talking to the big guy in the sky the other day and since I hadn't been blaspheming and cussing out his good name recently he granted me three questions.

    "god, if you created the universe and the universe is everything that exists, where did you come from?"

    god; "Well Wajoma, super god created me."

    "Alright then, where did super god come from?"

    god; "the 'more super god' created super god who created me - god"

    "I thought there was only one god, but I guess you had to come from somewhere, how about this 'more super god' where did it come from?"

    god; "great, great super god created the 'more super god'."

    Wajoma; "hey big guy in the sky, can I have three more questions?"

    god; "Piss off Waj."
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    25 Jan '06 18:28
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    I was talking to the big guy in the sky the other day and since I hadn't been blaspheming and cussing out his good name recently he granted me three questions.

    "god, if you created the universe and the universe is everything that exists, where did you come from?"

    god; "Well Wajoma, super god created me."

    "Alright then, where did super god come from?" ...[text shortened]... uy in the sky, can I have three more questions?"

    god; "Piss off Waj."
    Perhaps when you find the God within you’ll get better answers.
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    28 Jan '06 09:15
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    I was talking to the big guy in the sky the other day and since I hadn't been blaspheming and cussing out his good name recently he granted me three questions.

    "god, if you created the universe and the universe is everything that exists, where did you come from?"

    god; "Well Wajoma, super god created me."

    "Alright then, where did super god come from?" ...[text shortened]... uy in the sky, can I have three more questions?"

    god; "Piss off Waj."
    You should stay off the LSD.
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    30 Jan '06 03:10
    Originally posted by Halitose
    You should stay off the LSD.
    o, come on now, he makes a good point...
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    30 Jan '06 08:19
    Originally posted by lioyank
    o, come on now, he makes a good point...
    The need for a super creator-god does not necessarily follow from the premise.
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    30 Jan '06 08:221 edit
    Originally posted by Halitose
    The need for a super creator-god does not necessarily follow from the premise.
    Ineffable logic, sir.

    (It's turtles all the way down).
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    30 Jan '06 09:45
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Ineffable logic, sir.

    (It's turtles all the way down).
    While I agree that it's an untenable position (either way), I fail to see how it would have any bearing on our situation -- so what if there was a chain of Muffies? (other than the obvious emotional correlation to the retarded Shakespearean view)
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    30 Jan '06 09:50
    Originally posted by Halitose
    While I agree that it's an untenable position (either way), I fail to see how it would have any bearing on our situation -- so what if there was a chain of Muffies? (other than the obvious emotional correlation to the retarded Shakespearean view)
    I don't get the bit about Shakespeare being retarded.

    Wajoma's story is absurd; so is our situation.
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    30 Jan '06 09:551 edit
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I don't get the bit about Shakespeare being retarded.

    Wajoma's story is absurd; so is our situation.
    Shakespeare is merely as an icon of his era -- retro.

    Edit: I got nothing personal against his genius. Still enjoy reading his work every now and again.
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    30 Jan '06 10:22
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Shakespeare is merely as an icon of his era -- retro.Edit: I got nothing personal against his genius. Still enjoy reading his work every now and again.
    I suppose you meant the Elizabethan Chain of Being?

    Despite its venerable age, the stacked turtles hypothesis still works. Do you get anything out of it?
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    30 Jan '06 10:32
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I suppose you meant the Elizabethan Chain of Being?

    Despite its venerable age, the stacked turtles hypothesis still works. Do you get anything out of it?
    I suppose you meant the Elizabethan Chain of Being?

    Indeed. Wasn't Shaky from the Elizabethan era?

    Despite its venerable age, the stacked turtles hypothesis still works. Do you get anything out of it?

    Unfortunately not, pray tell.
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    30 Jan '06 10:35
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Unfortunately not, pray tell.
    I already did, up there. It's an absurdist fable.
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    30 Jan '06 10:39
    Originally posted by Halitose
    The need for a super creator-god does not necessarily follow from the premise.
    It does if your argument for the existence of god is that the incredible complexity of the universe is proof of an intelligent designer/designers.
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    30 Jan '06 10:40
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I already did, up there. It's an absurdist fable.
    Ah... you have my agreement on that.
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    30 Jan '06 10:54
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    It does if your argument for the existence of god is that the incredible complexity of the universe is proof of an intelligent designer/designers.
    Really? How does it logically follow that an Intelligent Designer, who created the natural law of "cause and effect", must have a cause Himself?

    Note: my perspective is that He would not be bound to His own creation in the same way an architect is not part of his blueprint/building.
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