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    25 Jan '11 21:04
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    I am convinced in intelligent design, despite some of the unintelligent posts in these fora. I believe God created all that exists.
    Including itself?
  2. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    25 Jan '11 22:36
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Including itself?
    He must have.😡
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    25 Jan '11 23:39
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    He must have.😡
    No ! God created everything except himself :
    - God created all that exists
    - God does not exist
    - So he didn't have to create himself
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    25 Jan '11 23:54
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    Shama lama wing wang.
    rama lama dig dong
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    25 Jan '11 23:55
    Originally posted by Agerg
    Oo ee oo ah ah ting tang...
    Wala wala bing bang
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    25 Jan '11 23:56
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Including itself?
    I just love the way atheists have to refer to God as "it".

    Must be their limited vocabulary.
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    27 Jan '11 01:324 edits
    Originally posted by josephw
    I just love the way atheists have to refer to God as "it".

    Must be their limited vocabulary.
    Which notion of "God" do you refer to?

    "God" who hates homosexuals or "God" that doesn't?
    "God" who sends people to fiery hell or "God" that doesn't
    "God" who transcends logic or "God" who doesn't
    and so on...

    When atheists refer to your god as "it", the reason for this on my part is I see it as a formulation of some entity you've constructed in your own mind - it is an idea you've invented which at best (and I'm being overly generous here) could only approximate some "God" that actually exists.

    I don't usually ascribe a gender to ideas...do you? πŸ˜•
  8. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    27 Jan '11 01:40
    Originally posted by Agerg
    Which notion of "God" do you refer to?

    "God" who hates homosexuals or "God" that doesn't?
    "God" who sends people to fiery hell or "God" that doesn't
    "God" who transcends logic or "God" who doesn't
    and so on...

    When atheists refer to your god as "it", the reason for this on my part is I see it as a formulation of some entity you've constructed in your ...[text shortened]... ally exists.

    I don't usually ascribe a gender to ideas...do you? πŸ˜•
    There is but one true God my friend.
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    27 Jan '11 01:51
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    There is but one true God my friend.
    But even if for arguments sake, I grant that is a true statement; there is no way for me to have any confidence that the notion of god to which you refer (with all the attributes you would assign to it) is more real than the notion of god which jospehw refers to - indeed if I choose the wrong formulation of "God" and refer to it as "He" then I may be doing some other notion of "God" - perhaps a better fit, a disservice!
  10. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    27 Jan '11 01:52
    Originally posted by Agerg
    But even if for arguments sake, I grant that is a true statement; there is no way for me to have any confidence that the notion of god to which you refer (with all the attributes you would assign to it) is more real than the notion of god which jospehw refers to - indeed if I choose the wrong formulation of "God" and refer to it as "He" then I may be doing some other notion of "God" - perhaps a better fit, a disservice!
    Joe and myself are of similar beliefs. Joe's a good egg. πŸ™‚
    So is God. πŸ™‚
  11. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    27 Jan '11 01:58
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    There is but one true God my friend.
    Listen carefulluy.

    You are God, thats why "He" doesn't exist, cant be proved, etc.

    Born into speparation from god is our condition, there is no other subject.

    The bhudddists worked this out a long time ago.
    Period.....
    PeriodπŸ™‚
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    27 Jan '11 02:011 edit
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    Joe and myself are of similar beliefs. Joe's a good egg. πŸ™‚
    So is God. πŸ™‚
    Well in lieu of reliable information as to which formulation of "God" out of potentially infinitely many of them is more true than any other (if any are true that is!); I'd prefer to remain consistent and view them all with equal suspicion :]
  13. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    27 Jan '11 02:01
    Originally posted by shorbock
    No ! God created everything except himself :
    - God created all that exists
    - God does not exist
    - So he didn't have to create himself
    Agreed, Disagreed, half-agreeed, half-not not.
    Its alll Maya.

    My balls are tingling ("The other guys".mark e mark and will farrell>???)
  14. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    27 Jan '11 02:05
    Originally posted by josephw
    rama lama dig dong
    It allstarted with " A whapbabaloombamawhapbamboo",Little Richard
  15. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    27 Jan '11 02:16
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    It allstarted with " A whapbabaloombamawhapbamboo",Little Richard
    No sir, nonesense lyrics predate liguistics.
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