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This is what the 10 amount to, seen as modified by Grace.
The 10 suggestions which may get you into heaven.
You should have no other gods before me.
You may not make for yourself a carved image.
You should not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
You may remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
You should honor your father and mother.
You may not kill.
You should not commit adultery.
You may not steal.
You should not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You may not covet your neighbor's house. You may not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
19 Jan 24
@pettytalk saidSorry, I don't see the modifications.
This is what the 10 amount to, seen as modified by Grace.
The 10 suggestions which may get you into heaven.
You should have no other gods before me.
You may not make for yourself a carved image.
You should not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
You may remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
You should honor your father and mother. ...[text shortened]... manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Are you saying these apply to Gentiles? Are you saying that Christian salvation is tied to these?
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@suzianne saidI'm under the weather, but for you, a dear club member, I will try to give sight, since you don't see.
Sorry, I don't see the modifications.
Are you saying these apply to Gentiles? Are you saying that Christian salvation is tied to these?
Are you familiar with the unchanging original 10? When a Commander gives orders to his subordinates, they are not optional, because they are commands to be carried out. "Should" and "may" are only suggestions. "Shall" and "will" are mandatory.
Paul took liberty to unilaterally modify the contract for salvation between God and man. He taught that salvation comes through grace, not through works or adherence to the Ten Commandments.
If salvation means eternal life, why would Jesus tell someone to follow the commandments, to be saved?
22 Jan 24
@pettytalk saidSalvation requires faith AND works.
I'm under the weather, but for you, a dear club member, I will try to give sight, since you don't see.
Are you familiar with the unchanging original 10? When a Commander gives orders to his subordinates, they are not optional, because they are commands to be carried out. "Should" and "may" are only suggestions. "Shall" and "will" are mandatory.
Paul took liberty to u ...[text shortened]... salvation means eternal life, why would Jesus tell someone to follow the commandments, to be saved?
Paul altered Jesus' message.
22 Jan 24
@pettytalk saidOne more thing.
I'm under the weather, but for you, a dear club member, I will try to give sight, since you don't see.
Are you familiar with the unchanging original 10? When a Commander gives orders to his subordinates, they are not optional, because they are commands to be carried out. "Should" and "may" are only suggestions. "Shall" and "will" are mandatory.
Paul took liberty to u ...[text shortened]... salvation means eternal life, why would Jesus tell someone to follow the commandments, to be saved?
I'm not sure that "commandments" are "suggestions". "Should" and "may" do not prevent complications, they invite them.