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Are people who are pessimistic and misanthropic about the human condition and the state of the world often drawn to religious beliefs that feed their pessimism and misanthropy, or does religion too often turn some people into pessimists and misanthropes?
Do you mean like folks who are looking for another planet to migrate the human race to? Ie. "We better start searching for another habital world or one we can terraform Mars or cool down Venus. Maybe the moon Titan we should prepare to move to." Maybe Elon Musk types?
Do you mean those hoping some sympathetic advanced civilization light years away will take up our cause and help us with advanced technology?
Or do you mean like making AI so intelligent that a utopian society will emerge from unleashing robots making robots, computers designing computers?
Or do you mean like evolution will take its normal course and cyborgs and huminoids will be the next step in its advancement?
@sonship saidYou can talk about any aspect of the OP you want, of course. If you choose to discard the "religion" aspect explicitly mentioned in the OP, that's for you decide.
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Are people who are pessimistic and misanthropic about the human condition and the state of the world often drawn to religious beliefs that feed their pessimism and misanthropy, or does religion too often turn some people into pessimists and misanthropes?
Do you mean like folks who are looking for another planet to migrate the human race to? Ie. ...[text shortened]... tion will take its normal course and cyborgs and huminoids will be the next step in its advancement?
@sonship saidAs you know, on a Sprituality Forum like this, I am not interested in unnecessary, usually self-serving meaning-diluting definitions of "religion". You can talk to someone else about hockey and the like.
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One legitimaet definition of religion from Marriam Webster -
informal : an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group
Hockey is a religion in Canada.
Politics are a religion to him.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion
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@fmf saidI believe that religion, not all religion and not all parts of some religions, but generally speaking …. Religion drives misanthropic thoughts, attitudes and behaviours.
Are people who are pessimistic and misanthropic about the human condition and the state of the world often drawn to religious beliefs that feed their pessimism and misanthropy, or does religion too often turn some people into pessimists and misanthropes?
Some people are looking forward to the world burning, to non-adherents to their religious ideology burning, to justice being meted out with an eternal flamethrower. They want to be proved right, and as soon as possible.
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@fmf saidAre people who are pessimistic and misanthropic about the human condition and the state of the world often drawn to religious beliefs that feed their pessimism and misanthropy
Are people who are pessimistic and misanthropic about the human condition and the state of the world often drawn to religious beliefs that feed their pessimism and misanthropy, or does religion too often turn some people into pessimists and misanthropes?
The short answer is - No. As a Christian I'm quite optimistic about the human condition, and as to the state of the world, I'm confident it is unfolding in keeping with God's plan.
Non-believers look around them and see chaos, climate change, political upheaval, the fear of another world war and are frightened and depressed at what they see. Most believers on the other hand, see all these things were spoken of by the Old Testament prophets centuries ago, and that all these things must come to pass before the second coming of Jesus, and the beginning of Gods kingdom on earth.
Be still and know that I am God - Psalm 46:10🙂
08 Feb 22
@mchill saidDo you think that Christians who anticipate the 'end times' with some eagerness and impatience are misanthropic?
Most believers on the other hand, see all these things were spoken of by the Old Testament prophets centuries ago, and that all these things must come to pass before the second coming of Jesus, and the beginning of Gods kingdom on earth.
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You can talk to someone else about hockey and the like.
You mean you don't want to talk about YOUR spirituality of making religion out of your faith in naturalism and technological advancement and Darwinism - and all the things which make God unnecessary in your Spirituality.
Why else would you frequent here on Spirituality then to display
your alternatives to that?
You may not have candles and stain glass windows (yet). But I can see you practically chanting ten "Hail Darwin full of grades." You're religious.
You know atheist churches are springing up?
The Rise of Atheist Churches?
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