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Originally posted by souvereinHave you heard of those devoted monks who live in the mountains amongst the wilderness and the birds of the forest and with that fresh mountain air....its wonderful
Two short video's of two great minds to start with:
Richard Feynman: The Uncertainty Of Knowledge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhBcLk_8f0&feature=related
Carl Sagan: The Fine Art of Not Knowing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQDNNYyjJ4
Originally posted by vishvahetuWhat I wanted to express is that the acknowledgement of unanswerable existential questions don't have to lead to an escape towards a religion.
Have you heard of those devoted monks who live in the mountains amongst the wilderness and the birds of the forest and with that fresh mountain air....its wonderful
But there are some monks that take the vow of silence, and words for them have not been spoken for many many years.
They do not speak for they do not have knowledge, for to have knowledg ...[text shortened]... ot be fooled into thinking silence is respectable unless that the person being silent is a fool.
Originally posted by souvereinI know, that I do not know---Socrates
Two short video's of two great minds to start with:
Richard Feynman: The Uncertainty Of Knowledge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhBcLk_8f0&feature=related
Carl Sagan: The Fine Art of Not Knowing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQDNNYyjJ4
Originally posted by vishvahetuI wouldn't mind a little foolish silence right about now.
Have you heard of those devoted monks who live in the mountains amongst the wilderness and the birds of the forest and with that fresh mountain air....its wonderful
But there are some monks that take the vow of silence, and words for them have not been spoken for many many years.
They do not speak for they do not have knowledge, for to have knowledg ...[text shortened]... ot be fooled into thinking silence is respectable unless that the person being silent is a fool.
Originally posted by souvereinIf you have a run of bad luck, and find that you have a wallet full of counterfeit money, you do not think that real money is non existent.
What I wanted to express is that the acknowledgement of unanswerable existential questions don't have to lead to an escape towards a religion.
Your reaction reflects the controversy between Mahayana and Hinayana, which is an interesting but different topic.
Originally posted by vishvahetuI can recommend you to read more about Socrates and Socratic ignorance.
Interesting because......the beginning of spiritual life starts with the realization that one does not know, and that they suffer repeatedly.
Originally posted by souverein......and to what conclusion?
I can recommend you to read more about Socrates and Socratic ignorance.
Socrates was a master in stimulating his students by putting forwards question after question in stead of lecturing them or calling them ignorant or dishonest....
Originally posted by vishvahetuThe citizens of Athens were angry and frightened for the influence Socrates had on young people by questioning them and stimulating them to think for themselves. So the city tried en sentenced him to death by poison. He drunk the cup surrounded by his students and died in peace.
......and to what conclusion?
Originally posted by souvereinVery good, a man of conviction.
The citizens of Athens were angry and frightened for the influence Socrates had on young people by questioning them and stimulating them to think for themselves. So the city tried en sentenced him to death by poison. He drunk the cup surrounded by his students and died in peace.