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    08 Aug '11 17:23
    Originally posted by Palynka
    That makes a lot of sense to me. I'm not sure if I understand where you want to go with this, though. We're talking about people who have rejected the notion of a supreme moral being, still calling something "God".
    I can believe that some people who have personally rejected the notion of a supreme moral being would pay lip service, because they know the people generally believe in God as a supreme moral being. I am sure that many politicians are like this. OTOH, I have known some people, one being my sister, who think of God as a 'principle' and don't mind using the word in that sense. If some people think God is a living being of some sort, it's OK by them. It's just too bad that the respect isn't always mutual.
  2. Donationrwingett
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    08 Aug '11 17:28
    Originally posted by Palynka
    That makes a lot of sense to me. I'm not sure if I understand where you want to go with this, though. We're talking about people who have rejected the notion of a supreme moral being, still calling something "God".
    Do you object to pantheists referring to the universe itself as god?
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    08 Aug '11 17:30
    Originally posted by JS357
    I can believe that some people who have personally rejected the notion of a supreme moral being would pay lip service, because they know the people generally believe in God as a supreme moral being. I am sure that many politicians are like this. OTOH, I have known some people, one being my sister, who think of God as a 'principle' and don't mind using the word ...[text shortened]... ing of some sort, it's OK by them. It's just too bad that the respect isn't always mutual.
    So, in a sense, it is doublespeak. Either that, or personal confusion.
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    08 Aug '11 17:362 edits
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Do you object to pantheists referring to the universe itself as god?
    You're not concerned about truth, why should I waste my time with you?

    Edit - I'll gladly address that if someone else is interested, by the way. Or if you convince me you're worth my time.
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    08 Aug '11 17:47
    Originally posted by Palynka
    So, in a sense, it is doublespeak. Either that, or personal confusion.
    Probably in most cases, it is one or the other. I know I use language like "God help us" or "God only knows" without believing in a god. Like, today's stock market behavior triggers both thoughts.
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    08 Aug '11 17:54
    Originally posted by JS357
    Probably in most cases, it is one or the other. I know I use language like "God help us" or "God only knows" without believing in a god. Like, today's stock market behavior triggers both thoughts.
    Ha! Me too, it's a guilty pleasure. 🙂
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    08 Aug '11 17:56
    Originally posted by Palynka
    You're not concerned about truth, why should I waste my time with you?

    Edit - I'll gladly address that if someone else is interested, by the way. Or if you convince me you're worth my time.
    😴
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    "Psychology as an argument cuts both ways."

    The Psychology of Atheism

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