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Ghost, FMF, and avalanchethecat are three atheists on the Forum.
I invite them here to explain why all men and women too often CANNOT carry out the good that they know to do or CANNOT stop the evil that they know they should not do.
Get ready for their wisdom.
Go fellas.
Why do human beings commit things against their conscience and fail to resist what their conscience does not approve of?
FMF, why don't you take the lead to guide the readers why?
@sonship saidBecause of weakness in their character. Because their moral compass misguides them or is not strong enough to keep them true to what that compass determines is morally sound. Broadly speaking, it is human nature; and the moral undulations and contradictions in everyday life are called the human condition. I have no credible reason to believe there is any supernatural aspect to this, and I do not believe there is a supernatural being called "Satan".
Why do human beings commit things against their conscience and fail to resist what their conscience does not approve of.
@sonship saidI take it you believe that human beings commit things against their conscience because of a supernatural being called "The Devil" or "Satan".
Why do human beings commit things against their conscience and fail to resist what their conscience does not approve of?
@sonship saidWhy only atheists?
Ghost, FMF, and avalanchethecat are three atheists on the Forum.I invite them here to explain why all men and women too often CANNOT carry out the good that they know to do or CANNOT stop the evil that they know they should not do.
Why do human beings commit things against their conscience and fail to resist what their conscience does not approve of?
Don’t you ever “commit things which are against your conscience and fail to resist what your conscience does not approx every of”?
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@fmf saidI suspect that you might be suffering from Boring Hamster Playground Syndrome, but in that case I would commiserate about exacerbation of Online Disinhibition Syndrome.
I take it you believe that human beings commit things against their conscience because of a supernatural being called "The Devil" or "Satan".
You seem to ask a lot of questions and make many surmises about other people, but what do you, from your "heart of hearts" or your "deep soul mind" (or whatever -- let's just say from your provisional ethical core) wish to share with us other hurtable and perishable peeps for the sake of spiritual guidance?
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@divegeester saidWhy is it always two against one with FMF and you? Don't you think FMF can handle his side of whatever debate, or do you just like to bask in the glow of borrowed importance?
Why only atheists?
Don’t you ever commit things which are against your conscience and fail to resist what your conscience does not approx every of”?
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Don’t you ever commit things which are against your conscience and fail to resist what your conscience does not approx every of”?
Leave it to you to erect the first strawman argument.
When did I say I was exempt from the dilemma?
On the contrary.
I respond to the good news of the Gospel with repentance and turning to a Savior.
@sonship saidIt’s not a “straw man” and it’s not an “argument”, nor did I say you were “exempt from the dilemma”. Your OP doesn’t contain a “dilemma” by the way.
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Leave it to you to erect the first strawman argument.
When did I say I was exempt from the dilemma?
On the contrary.
I respond to the good news of the Gospel with repentance and turning to a Savior.
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While I await the other two eloquent atheists to either confirm or enhance FMF's start, I tried a number of reactions to the problem sinning.
1.) I tried bribing my conscience by doing something else somewhere else good.
2.) I tried embracing the delimma as progressive and even a matter of pride.
"Wicked and darn proud of it."
3.) I tried doing better.
4.) I tried justifying myself by reasoning "At least I am not as bad as THAT other guy over there."
5.) I tried suppressing lust, angers, jealousy, and other bad habits in the mind and in the body.
6.) I tried believing I was just an animal anyway. Thanks Charles Darwin.
7.) I tried saying God has nothing to say about it because, after all, who knows who Cain married?
8.) Then I tried opening my heart and telling Jesus that I was TIRED and I wanted Him to TAKE me to Himself.
Things made a definite turn for the better.
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But this thread is not about my testimonial. Ghost, FMF, and avalanchethecat are going to guide us as to how atheism explains this sinning nature.
They will use their own vocabulary most likely.
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@divegeester
I explained the problem. And you chime in - like "Has it never happened to you?"
Strawman argument - go after sonship's hypocrisy.
Missing the mark is my experience too.
You knew I would claim that.
The OP's question:
Why do human beings commit things against their conscience and fail to resist what their conscience does not approve of?
Maverick Unitarians can give it a shot as well.
But I was mainly looking for atheist guidance.
One of them said certainly I as a Christian was misguided by people.
@sonship saidYou posed the question to me. Specifically. And you have ignored my answer. Why?
The OP's question:
Why do human beings commit things against their conscience and fail to resist what their conscience does not approve of?
But I was mainly looking for atheist guidance.
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Because of weakness in their character. Because their moral compass misguides them or is not strong enough to keep them true to what that compass determines is morally sound.
Why should not the moral compass and the moral behavior be in perfect sync?
What has happened that moral compass and moral behavior are out of sync in people?
Broadly speaking, it is human nature; and the moral undulations and contradictions in everyday life are called the human condition.
It doesn't seem to bother all the other living things on earth as far as I can tell.
I knew of dog that stole a guy's lunch and eat it up on the job.
That dog wasn't bothered in the least by its conscience.
It may have looked scared in the face of an angry worker whose lunch it ate.
But no moral compass told the dog it was wrong to steal the man's lunch.
Why does the moral compass of human beings so often raise the alarm about our moral choices and actions?
I have no credible reason to believe there is any supernatural aspect to this, and I do not believe there is a supernatural being called "Satan".
You told me what you don't believe.
Tell me with your purely "natural" universe of typical atheistic materialism why the moral compass and the moral behavior of people is so often out of synchronization.;