24 Jul 23
@fmf saidIt was, until The Fall. If one accepts the doctrine of original sin, that is. Some theologians hold that all of creation fell with Adam's fall.
Do the Abrahamic scriptures support or justify the assertion that our world, here on Earth, is the best of all the possible worlds that currently exist in this universe?
24 Jul 23
@fmf saidI dont think the bible says or implies that. From the bible I think it is possible to deduce that God and all the angels and other beings are living somewhere in the universe. Their abode must be better that this planet. Furthermore God has been creating worlds with life for eons. So some will be far more advanced. Also the location of Gods Kingdom was created from even before life was created here. So the bible supports the idea that there are better worlds out there somewhere.
Do the Abrahamic scriptures support or justify the assertion that our world, here on Earth, is the best of all the possible worlds that currently exist in this universe?
25 Jul 23
@divegeester saidYeah, got it from the bible. If God [and all who were with Him], worked on the creation for 6 days and rested on the 7th. It means that if God was there before the creation and after, chances are good that He would have been doing the same.
Is this just an idea or are you pulling from some text somewhere?
I can understand atheists not accepting this idea, but anyone who believes the bible should also believe that God prior to creating life on Earth, was also doing the same elsewhere.
25 Jul 23
@rajk999 saidWhat you are asserting is not “from the bible”, it is just an idea you are floating.
Yeah, got it from the bible. If God [and all who were with Him], worked on the creation for 6 days and rested on the 7th. It means that if God was there before the creation and after, chances are good that He would have been doing the same.
@divegeester saidThe bible said God worked 6 days and rested on the 7th. Someone can deduce that on the 8th, God worked and not rested. It is because of this, God passed on this instruction to the Jew to do likewise. They are to work 6 days and rest 1, Just like He did. Obviously on the 8th day work continued. If you call that floating an idea then thats your call. I am taking the information in the bible and using it to draw reasonable conclusions about life in this universe that makes perfect sense.
What you are asserting is not “from the bible”, it is just an idea you are floating.
Another one is that God created man in 6 days [or 6 time periods], and not an entire universe. Some crazy Christians think the entire universe was created 6000 years ago, in 6 days, which is another ridiculous idea.
So one can draw reasonable conclusions from the Genesis account or draw ridiculous ones. I choose the reasonable.
@fmf saidThe answer to that question has already been spelled out in the scriptures for you. Perhaps a detailed review of them would be a good idea. 🙂
Do the Abrahamic scriptures support or justify the assertion that our world, here on Earth, is the best of all the possible worlds that currently exist in this universe?
29 Jul 23
@fmf saidIf the Abrahamic God created human life on other Class M planets [see Star Trek], would it mean the inhabitants there would have scripture identical to Earth's "Genesis" and would they have the same need for Jesus to visit and sacrifice his life to "save" them?
Do the Abrahamic scriptures support or justify the assertion that our world, here on Earth, is the best of all the possible worlds that currently exist in this universe?
NB: this is a thought experiment
@fmf saidThis is an interesting question.
If the Abrahamic God created human life on other Class M planets [see Star Trek], would it mean the inhabitants there would have scripture identical to Earth's "Genesis" and would they have the same need for Jesus to visit and sacrifice his life to "save" them?
NB: this is a thought experiment
My own opinion on a Biblical scriptural answer would stem from
Romans 8:22-29 NKJV
For we know that the whole creation groans and labours with birth pangs together until now.
Wether this one verse would be considered conclusive even from a Christian’s perspective is questionable, especially given the scale of the diverse “Christian” cosmological nonsense propagating the internet.