15 Jun 11
Originally posted by rwingettWhat in particular is the legislation that Christians are trying to
If a majority of people were tooth fairy believers, all trying to put pro-tooth fairy legislation into effect, then you can bet that there would be a word for non-belief in the tooth fairy. It would become a big deal. But since no one believes in the tooth fairy, there is no need for a word to signify it.
put into effect that you object to?
15 Jun 11
Originally posted by rwingettSo it doesn't mean you love wickedness?
You seem to be willfully obtuse here. I will repeat for the nth time that atheism is NOT how I define myself. It is NOT a stance about life. It does not define me or tell you anything about me at all except that I am not a theist.
15 Jun 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieCorrect. And I never claimed otherwise.
1.sooo you admit that you haven't spoken to any Apes personally so as to ascertain their thoughts
2. soooo you admit that you can produce no works of Ape art, despite stating that such is in existence
I never made any such statement.
3.so you have no way of knowing whether Apes are conscious of concepts like beauty, despite your assertion that they are
Wrong. I do have ways of knowing whether apes are concious of concepts like beauty.
yet here you are, chastising another contributor, for apparently the very same mistake?
Which other contributor was that and what was their mistake?
Are you aware if the implications of this? are you aware of how it reflects
upon the credibility of your utterances, are you aware of the complete hypocrisy? Good,
see to it and dont let it happen again.
I will see to it after you convince me that I was being hypocritical. Until then, I will remain convinced that it is you that lacks credibility: You have made claims regarding conciousness, but kept changing the definition. You claimed I made a statement I didn't (see 2. above).
15 Jun 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadRobbie: Are they also aware of beauty and art?
Correct. And I never claimed otherwise.
[b]2. soooo you admit that you can produce no works of Ape art, despite stating that such is in existence
I never made any such statement.
3.so you have no way of knowing whether Apes are conscious of concepts like beauty, despite your assertion that they are
Wrong. I do have ways of knowing wheth ...[text shortened]... ness, but kept changing the definition. You claimed I made a statement I didn't (see 2. above).[/b]
Twithead: Yes.
you were asked to produce works of art which demonstrated your assertion, you have proffered nothing.
15 Jun 11
Originally posted by rwingettAre you an Atheist? If not than the topic does not apply to you, if you say yes
You seem to be willfully obtuse here. I will repeat for the nth time that atheism is NOT how I define myself. It is NOT a stance about life. It does not define me or tell you anything about me at all except that I am not a theist.
you are, you do define yourself as one.
Kelly
15 Jun 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieCorrect.
Robbie: Are they also aware of beauty and art?
Twithead: Yes.
you were asked to produce works of art which demonstrated your assertion, you have proffered nothing.
How does any of that translate into me claiming that they had created works of art?
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15 Jun 11
Originally posted by KellyJay
Atheism is against another belief system, it stands against theism, and it is
a rejection of it. Since its very reason to be is to be against or reject God it
is opposition to God by its very nature. You cannot even call yourself an
Atheist without someone else having views or beliefs and you have to be
against them. I do not call myself against the too ...[text shortened]... ingless to me, I do not choose
a word to describe my very unbelief from the tooth fairy.
Kelly