The danger of a morality based on religion

@secondson said
You are extremely closed minded.

This may or may not be true about other aspects of my life, but I am open to the possibility of supernatural causality.

@secondson said
Your condescension is noted.

What I said was: Religions give billions and billions of people meaning, purpose and solace. I would not describe it as "a waste of the mind".

Surely you agree with me?

@fmf said
I describe myself as an agnostic atheist.

God describes you as a fool. And if you had an open mind you'd try to find out why.

I, on the other hand, refrain from making a self-diagnosis and labeling myself anything. Doing so has a ring of arrogance to it.

Instead I see myself as what God says I am. I'm alive because someone greater than me has caused it, and only the truly open minded can comprehend and understand that concept.

@fmf said
I think open-mindedness comprises capacity for abstraction, and speculation, and scepticism and doubt, rather than settling for the "boundaries" of this religion or that religion.

Without "boundaries" an "open mind" is in chaos.

@secondson said
God describes you as a fool. And if you had an open mind you'd try to find out why.

But I do know why Christians cite this. It has been discussed here many times. However, you saying "God describes you as a fool" doesn't amount to much of a discussion point if the discussion is with an agnostic atheist.

@fmf said
Bear in mind that I personally don't believe you have anything credible to tell me about a creator being.

Of course not. You're far too open minded for that.

@secondson said
Without "boundaries" an "open mind" is in chaos.

You should feel free to define, and confine yourself within, whatever boundaries you want.

@secondson said
Of course not. You're far too open minded for that.

I've given several decades of attention to Christianity, both as a Christian and as a non-Christian.

@secondson said
I, on the other hand, refrain from making a self-diagnosis and labeling myself anything. Doing so has a ring of arrogance to it.

Do you not label yourself a believer in Jesus?

@secondson said
Instead I see myself as what God says I am. I'm alive because someone greater than me has caused it, and only the truly open minded can comprehend and understand that concept.

I have no difficulty comprehending the concept and belief that people are alive because someone greater than them has caused it to be so. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

@fmf said
Religious folklore and doctrines are "knowledge of man".

And because you're so open minded you can assert that the "knowledge of God" is "folklore".

@secondson said
And because you're so open minded you can assert that the "knowledge of God" is "folklore".

It's my perspective as a non-theist. It underpins the opinions I expressed on page 1 of this thread.

@secondson said
And because you're so open minded you can assert that the "knowledge of God" is "folklore".

Don't you also think that "knowledge of God" is "folklore" in the cases of religions other than your own?

@whodey said
Your take on religion is the knowledge of man.

FMF can't see the gaping hole in his logic. By now you will have seen how he dodged your attempts to engage on this and the following page.