@josephw said17 and going strong. 🙂
Hey ghost, "how" is your cat? I have five. Had six, but one got hit by a car. Now it is not. 🤔
It's all I can do to keep my Blue Healer (female) from killing the rest. She did kill about half a dozen when she was young, but I got it sunk into her head to leave them alone. I told her I love the cats too.
@josephw saidGod is all, so your conception of God is faulty
God is eternal. God created the universe. The universe had a beginning, therefore it's not eternal.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI should have a cat that lives so long, but I live out in a rural area and the animals live outside. Though I do supply a good shelter and plenty of food and fresh water at all times.
17 and going strong. 🙂
Whenever I come home or go outside they all come running to me. They love me. Or at least they love the guy that feeds them! 🙂
@karoly-aczel saidYour conception of God is humanistic, therefore it lacks credibility.
God is all, so your conception of God is faulty
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThe universe is material.
The universe is eternal. God was created by man during his brief moment in existence. Both man and God therefore had a beginning, unlike the eternal universe.
God is eternal. That means God had no beginning. A concept beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.
@josephw saidMy conceptions are don't have well defined edges so I place more importance on my non verbal intuitions and resonances than any limiting concepts I may conjure
Your conception of God is humanistic, therefore it lacks credibility.
@josephw saidThe universe is One. It's connected to all its constituents whether they be material,immaterial or otherwise
The universe is material.
God is eternal. That means God had no beginning. A concept beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.
@karoly-aczel saidOnly God can define Himself.
My conceptions are don't have well defined edges so I place more importance on my non verbal intuitions and resonances than any limiting concepts I may conjure
You can only try.
@karoly-aczel saidYou'd have to be God Himself to know that.
The universe is One. It's connected to all its constituents whether they be material,immaterial or otherwise
Therefore your perspective is merely conjectural.
@josephw saidGod is one with all its creation and can be said to be existing or not.
Only God can define Himself.
You can only try.
The one spirit is beyond any attributes or descriptions yet pervades all
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@josephw saidNo sir, 'time' is beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.
The universe is material.
God is eternal. That means God had no beginning. A concept beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.
Matter has always existed, in one form or another.
(I don't see how God can be beyond our intellectual grasp when one considers we invented him, to make the world a less scary place).
@karoly-aczel said"God is one with all its creation..."
God is one with all its creation and can be said to be existing or not.
The one spirit is beyond any attributes or descriptions yet pervades all
Where does it say that? Or is that just your opinion?
@ghost-of-a-duke said"Time out of mind". We know that much don't we?
No sir, 'time' is beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.
Matter has always existed, in one form or another.
(I don't see how God can be beyond our intellectual grasp when one considers we invented him, to make the world a less scary place).
Matter exists. We know that. But to say matter has always existed is merely conjecture.
Not logical to think man can "invent" God, especially an eternal God. The concept is with regards to the infinite, which is beyond the grasp of human intellect.
The idea that God was invented is a subsequent delusion to the real knowledge of the existence of the eternal. In other words, the idea that God was invented is the invention.
@josephw saidThe idea that God exists is merely conjecture.
"Time out of mind". We know that much don't we?
Matter exists. We know that. But to say matter has always existed is merely conjecture.
Not logical to think man can "invent" God, especially an eternal God. The concept is with regards to the infinite, which is beyond the grasp of human intellect.
The idea that God was invented is a subsequent delusion to the real know ...[text shortened]... ge of the existence of the eternal. In other words, the idea that God was invented is the invention.
It is also highly dubious (and also not logical) to believe your particular God is beyond conjecture but that the gods others believe in are not.