The Death of the Universe

@josephw said
Hey ghost, "how" is your cat? I have five. Had six, but one got hit by a car. Now it is not. 🤔

It's all I can do to keep my Blue Healer (female) from killing the rest. She did kill about half a dozen when she was young, but I got it sunk into her head to leave them alone. I told her I love the cats too.

17 and going strong. 🙂

@josephw said
God is eternal. God created the universe. The universe had a beginning, therefore it's not eternal.

God is all, so your conception of God is faulty

@josephw said
God is eternal. God created the universe. The universe had a beginning, therefore it's not eternal.

The universe is eternal. God was created by man during his brief moment in existence. Both man and God therefore had a beginning, unlike the eternal universe.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
17 and going strong. 🙂

I should have a cat that lives so long, but I live out in a rural area and the animals live outside. Though I do supply a good shelter and plenty of food and fresh water at all times.

Whenever I come home or go outside they all come running to me. They love me. Or at least they love the guy that feeds them! 🙂

@karoly-aczel said
God is all, so your conception of God is faulty

Your conception of God is humanistic, therefore it lacks credibility.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The universe is eternal. God was created by man during his brief moment in existence. Both man and God therefore had a beginning, unlike the eternal universe.

The universe is material.

God is eternal. That means God had no beginning. A concept beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.

@josephw said
Your conception of God is humanistic, therefore it lacks credibility.

My conceptions are don't have well defined edges so I place more importance on my non verbal intuitions and resonances than any limiting concepts I may conjure

@josephw said
The universe is material.

God is eternal. That means God had no beginning. A concept beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.

The universe is One. It's connected to all its constituents whether they be material,immaterial or otherwise

@karoly-aczel said
My conceptions are don't have well defined edges so I place more importance on my non verbal intuitions and resonances than any limiting concepts I may conjure

Only God can define Himself.

You can only try.

@karoly-aczel said
The universe is One. It's connected to all its constituents whether they be material,immaterial or otherwise

You'd have to be God Himself to know that.

Therefore your perspective is merely conjectural.

@josephw said
Only God can define Himself.

You can only try.

God is one with all its creation and can be said to be existing or not.
The one spirit is beyond any attributes or descriptions yet pervades all

@josephw said
The universe is material.

God is eternal. That means God had no beginning. A concept beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.

No sir, 'time' is beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.

Matter has always existed, in one form or another.

(I don't see how God can be beyond our intellectual grasp when one considers we invented him, to make the world a less scary place).

@karoly-aczel said
God is one with all its creation and can be said to be existing or not.
The one spirit is beyond any attributes or descriptions yet pervades all

"God is one with all its creation..."

Where does it say that? Or is that just your opinion?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
No sir, 'time' is beyond the intellectual grasp of a mere mortal.

Matter has always existed, in one form or another.

(I don't see how God can be beyond our intellectual grasp when one considers we invented him, to make the world a less scary place).

"Time out of mind". We know that much don't we?

Matter exists. We know that. But to say matter has always existed is merely conjecture.

Not logical to think man can "invent" God, especially an eternal God. The concept is with regards to the infinite, which is beyond the grasp of human intellect.

The idea that God was invented is a subsequent delusion to the real knowledge of the existence of the eternal. In other words, the idea that God was invented is the invention.

@josephw said
"Time out of mind". We know that much don't we?

Matter exists. We know that. But to say matter has always existed is merely conjecture.

Not logical to think man can "invent" God, especially an eternal God. The concept is with regards to the infinite, which is beyond the grasp of human intellect.

The idea that God was invented is a subsequent delusion to the real know ...[text shortened]... ge of the existence of the eternal. In other words, the idea that God was invented is the invention.

The idea that God exists is merely conjecture.

It is also highly dubious (and also not logical) to believe your particular God is beyond conjecture but that the gods others believe in are not.